Posted: 03/09/2016 at 18:37
Counting the number of leaflets will not tell you whether it's a sucker or not. Older type roses, and some of the newer ones too, which have ramblers and other types in their genetics often have more leaflets.
I've grown Buff Beauty in several gardens - it's a gorgeous rose, a hybrid musk with long arching elegant stems and a fantastic fragrance. In my gardens its grown to 7/8 ft tall and at least four feet across. It's a large shrub. Those aren't suckers - they're healthy new growth which will have the blooms on next year.
Fred Loades is also a large shrub rose. The new growth on that one doesn't look like sucker growth etiher, just normal new growth.
P.S. Classic Roses give Buff Beauty's size as five foot x five foot.
I think that's a conservative estimate in my experience.
Last edited: 03 September 2016 18:39:38