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Bargain of the century!!!

Posted: 11/10/2013 at 01:23

I'm a bit obsessed with standards at the mo, so I wold put in some type of standard with lots of lovely frilly trailers underneath it. Tumbelina petunias maybe.  I have a full whisky barrel that I couldn't bear to half, so I have a large shallow planter on top, with a small water feature in the bowl, planted around with surfinias this yr, but the tumbelinas looked better last yr. Will look for a pic of this yrs, but I know I have none from last yr as computer died with all my pics. (and who hadn't backed them up, daft cow?)

Needs a specimen of some type, then you coild see plant and tub in all their glory in the 'bald' months, underplanted with shortish bulbs for spring, then the traily things in summer. Trailing violas might look nice in late winter/spring.

I had never seen or heard of a tree dahlia before (have a tree peony, but have not had a flower yet in 3 yrs!), so I looked it up. Only glanced at these links so far, but thought you might like.


Posted: 11/10/2013 at 01:01

OH, and thanks, all. Sorry, should have said that first, as you have all been so welcoming elsewhere.  I'm sure other 'newbies' will feel welcome to join in, as a thread like this shows how friendly you all are.  Ther are no other forums I have come across, except pet rat ones, that just have 'chit chat' threads like this.


Posted: 11/10/2013 at 00:57

Hi, All. Have tried to follow the old 'Forkers' but was just too much catching up, and as you all seemed so friendly and settled in it didn't feel right. But now I've met most of you who are here on other threads, I feel like I have a couple of friends. For now, till I bore you all stupid! Wow that sea looks rough, Dove, no wonder you got a wet a -- Bum!Our weather been hot today in Ayr, but v windy yesterday and a frost in the night, so have been madly bubble wrapping the GH today for my twisted standard fuchsias, my babies!  Some tops nipped out to make heads for next yr, some with hopes of keeping tips to grow on nxt yr, and if not, will make quarter or half standards, I hope.

So, What the rest of you been up to? Are you ready for the winter. Gardens put to bed yet?  Who's got bulbs, sets, seeds, bareroots, etc ready to plant? Who's started, who hasn't, and what are you all planning for next yr?

Lots of questions, I know, but should give some talking matter whilst I sneakily look for ideas and pick brains without asking anything specific!

Is it time....unification of evening and morning FORKERS?

Posted: 11/10/2013 at 00:38

I Love the idea, as would love to get involved, but as a new(ish) comer, there is just so much to read thriugh before I feel fit or involved enough to answer, so YES PLEASE! See you've started, so I'll see you all there, as there wasn't a 'Middle of the night' Forkers!

shady veg plot

Posted: 11/10/2013 at 00:31

No, Star, especially not when I look on this forum. So much to read, learn, ask!!!!


And, Robin, just go for it. Don' fret or plan too much, just stick in what you like. (or your neighbours or friends like!) I will say that the 'growveg' site can be fun and helpful. It's a garden planner tool for growing veg, ha ha.

You get a 30 day trial, then it's £15 yr. have a look.

the worst of the worst jokes

Posted: 08/10/2013 at 05:32

Msbeehaven! You don't fit here either!  This is for S&%$£" jokes! oh, you make me feel so inferior. Your jokes are just GOLD. I believe you need an upgrade all of your own  Verdun and Diddy (or whatever he calling himself now),conspicuous by absence on all threads for last few days. Out up, do you know?

GardenIng jokes

Posted: 08/10/2013 at 05:15

Ms beehaven

Thought THIS thread was for GARDENING JOKES!

Your last 3, funny as they are, don't belong, so please send along (without deleting from here, as they still have to be seen and groaned at!) to the thread 'Worst Jokes', I think it's called, as this caters for crap jokes of every denomination except 'gardening'! Please realise that this directive does not come from the GW admin, but from a sad little lady who was born to scousers and can recognise, appreciate and love a joke, and ask for many more, whilst never being able to remember one, or tell it if she could, without giving away the punchline first! I think I missed one j,ene,Jean, jeans gean, oh, one of them thingies that deleted my sense of humour as known to modern ma-per-wo-thin- You know what I mean, bugger off over there, I might 'get it' better in the right context!

Sue, yours stand up, here!

shady veg plot

Posted: 08/10/2013 at 04:47

You would have far better luck than me if you like lettuce! My Garden is full sun, dawn till dusk in growing season, and my prob is things bolting! Do you get 4-6 hrs sun in any part of it? If so, put things that want a bit of sun there, and grow stuff like Waterbutts and Dove said everywhere else. If you try in containers before digging beds, you'll see what could work for little outlay, and could be pleasantly surprised to find that more things will grow than you expect. In the one darkish bit I have next to garage I grow spuds and salads in poly pots that I can move as the sunlight changes through the yr. Link for the polypots

They have lots of sizes, depending what you want to grow. They're on the idea of these spud gro bags everyone advertises now.

Yrs ago, when I first wanted to grow veg, I had a teeny yard, and my first yr I grew just the free seeds from gardening mags, but in pots, and there was little advice for pot growing then, but I thought I would have a go. Dad came and watered for me in June for 2 wks when I went on hols. OMG.  I came home to a veritable jungle! In my shady, tiny yard, I had sown seeds in quite small pots, and read on the backs of the packets how to sow and when to harvest.

Gods, was I naive?! When I left, there was decent growth. In 2 wks, as the growing season got into it's stride and I was away, everything had romped away, I had beans were there had been no flowers, and I had NO idea spuds grew so big! Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but you don't always learn from it! Or from books, either.  I hate runner beans, so do my kids, but I grow them every yr, because of that first success.  Yet books and seed catalogues seem to tell me that they need more care and better weather and more pollination than so-called easier french or dwarf beans. Ha!  I say SOW IT AND SEE! (See what I did there, WB and Dove? was that a pun, or a joke? was it, was it?)

I think, if you are just wanting to try to sow a few seeds, nowt lost. Even the most experienced gardeners have some total failures every yr, but what is a few pounds spent?  It is unlikely that everything would fail, then you'll start to get a feeling for your garden and your soil.  I think, in growing veg there are few hard and fast rules that apply now or ever as our climate (and many other things you will read about), change the goalposts every yr. New composts, feeds, bugs, viruses, etc!

Get a handful of packets of seeds, don't read or plan too much (my biggest mistakes!), sow 'em and see what they do, and have fun doing it.)

Where I am cautious and take time is in planting fruit plants that have cost me a bit.  But all of the fruit plants that Waterbutts mentioned do well in most positions and most soils, and would be hard to kill. They all came from 'forest/ woods type situations to start with, and my rasps have been in quite deep shade now for 4 yrs, but now established I am currently picking a colander full of autumn (primocane) ones every 2 days. (about 3-4lbs).  Much better than the summer ones in the same cage, if you don't mind waiting a little longer for bigger, fatter, juicier and sweeter ones!

Don't worry too much about your light. All conditions change every yr, and what did well last yr,may not do well this, even for the most experienced gardener on a similar plot. Last yr, my carrots were great, everything else me

Robin watch

Posted: 08/10/2013 at 02:46

Oh, and I've also found that they love breadcrumbs, fruit loaf, cake crumbs and over-ripe raspberries, and will happily eat from the ground on the middle of the lawn or the patio nr the house. They don't care about the dog or people, and as we only have one local cat, I can't say whether feeders are better nr trees for birds to escape to, or in the open so they can see cats coming. The robins,sparrows, tits and finches all wait in the morning for crumbs thrown on lawn and patio with birdfood, leftover pet rat food, mealworms, etc, and are used to the dog going out for his ablutions and me standing at the door for my first fag of the day while they eat just a few feet away.  I don't use feeders as the squirrels and crows just wreck them, cost me an arm and a leg, and the nice birds get nowt!

Robin watch

Posted: 08/10/2013 at 02:33

Hi, James. I agree with everyone else, they seem to love mealworms and suet best.

Glad he has not disappeared. They are very fearless, also territorial. Your young one may make your garden his territory if he survives the winter, and could become quite tame. Although their territories seem to be quite small, and you may see a couple feeding over winter, once spring comes you will probably only see one male.  I have been fascinated watching ours this yr, and was amazed to discover how much the male helps in bringing up the young. He had a major fight early on in the spring, and as he has been with us since we moved in, I was scared that he may be getting a bit elderly and be driven off or even killed (as I believe they can do), but he came out on top, and duly bred.  We know he is 'ours', as he has a couple of white feathers on one wing that must be a scar of some sort, and make him 'special'!  He is also very tame, and would feed out of my hand, I think, if I would sit still for long enough! He gets almost under my feet when I'm digging or weeding, but although he will snatch mealworms that I throw, he won't take anything that i throw to him that I have dug up. Perhaps he sees his own gourmet menu there!

Because of the white feathers (We also have a crow with an almost completely white wing! Not so fascinating, just a bully, even to buzzards!), I have been able to recognise him, and to follow him all yr, which I couldn't reliably do wherever I have lived before.

I was very surprised to see how much a part he takes in the care of the chicks, and this was only because I found a nest by accident. Now here is where I become confused.  I had thought, as I believe that most of you on this thread do, that the male had th red-breast, and the female was drab. According to everything I have looked up on the internet, the female has a red breast, too.

I had a pile of junk, mostly in bags, ready to go to tip, but car off rd. I kept going into my shed, very close to this pile, and a bird kept flying at my head. After a couple of times, I started to look to see from where, then started to make more noise as I got closer to see where she was coming from (by then , I had twigged that there must be a nest) Sure enough, with careful inspection, I found a nest. with pale blue eggshells under it, in an old compost bag with a broken pot just inside it. The eggshells said Robin, to me, but the bird that flew out was smaller and just brown. Then one day, it was 'MY' robin that flew at me from away from the nest. So I watched more, and saw that he was taking food to the nest, almost constantly. So, he was feeding babies (and possibly the mum, whilst she was sitting), but she looked just brown, almost like a wren. And I'm almost certain that, until my boy had his fight in spring, that he was the only robin I had seen in my garden until then.

So MY question is, does the female moult or remove feathers when breeding?

Last wk, a robin was on our telegraph line while my neighbour and I talked, and we both remarked on how noisy and persistent he was.  Then I ran round to my house, as heard phone, and startled a bird into my conservatory.  I threw a towel over it, caught it, and found it was a juvenile robin, still scruffy but getting a few red feathers. Showed it to kids, took round to neighbour and let it go, and it flew straight up to the robin on the line and they flew away together! Was this it's Dad (too far away to make out white feathers), or Mum, or what?  I'm now fascinated and trying to find out more about them, other than what they will eat and when I am likely to see them.  I took them for granted before, but have been fascinated by thier ways and antics this yr, just 'cos one had a couple of white feathers!

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