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Tomato Plant

Posted: 31/05/2013 at 08:15

As steephill says, Alicante would normally grow to at least 6'. It's an indeterminate (cordon) variety. Indeterminates aren't really suited to growing indoors on a window sill. Indeterminates continue to grow and produce fruit on the new growth during the season. Remove all the growing tips, the plant will stop growing and there will be no more fruit.

Lu, can you give us some more information? Varieties? How big/old/mature they are? Current temperatures? A photo would be a help too.

Tomatoes

Posted: 30/05/2013 at 17:12

The common ones manifest as spots on the leaves that gradually enlarge. I've got a link on my HD somewhere to a good explanation with photos. I'll find it and post it.

Tomatoes

Posted: 30/05/2013 at 16:37

windowgardener, covering them like that is all right on a short-term basis in case of, say, sudden cold snaps. It's not healthy in the longer term for the reason that bothers you. Trapped humid air is the enemy.

Tomatoes

Posted: 30/05/2013 at 16:35

BB, not in the slightest. It was a fair point. Not everyone grows in an ideal world. I'm lucky that I've been able to for a long time, first in Oz, now in Italy. The drawback in Sydney was the stinking humidity, fungal heaven; here in Italy it's the uninterrupted fortnights of 40C+. It can fry the flowers on the plants. But I count my tomato blessings.

Spacing is only one of the anti-fungal measures, that's all. Part of the package.

Scrubbing out is always a good idea for a lot of reasons. I think it's your ventilation, though, and the breeze in particular, that helps you. But be vigilant, ever vigilant. As I'm sure you are.

Tomatoes

Posted: 30/05/2013 at 07:15

BB, sounds like you've got great ventilation - including that breeze - so that gives you a huge head start.

Yes, around 3' between plantings is the acknowledged preferred minimum. And, yes, it's in an ideal world. Obviously not everyone can achieve it. As I said to windowgardener further up the page, you are ultimately dictated to by your circumstances.

Unless you spray against fungal diseases, air circulation is your best means of minimising the chances of fungal diseases. Plant spacing is only one of the numerous bits of housekeeping you can practise.

Others include keeping the foliage as dry as possible, nipping off excess branches and foliage to avoid impenetrable clumps forming and hindering air circulation, and maintaining a gap between the lowest foliage and the soil. Fungal spores can and will fall from the foliage to the soil and be splashed back up again during watering. The gap helps against this.

Ultimately, the closer you plant the toms together, the more care you need to take.

 

 

Tomatoes

Posted: 29/05/2013 at 17:46

You wouldn't want a pot shallower than 30cm with a proper stake in it. There's not enough soil to support it.

With toms in general it's a good idea to have as much space between the plants as possible. It aids air circulation which is a help against fungal diseases. Fungal spores love lots of foliage crammed up together. Keeping the air moving keeps the spores moving. As a rule of thumb, 3 feet is about the minimum distance you'd want between plants. More if possible.

Tomatoes

Posted: 29/05/2013 at 14:10

Moneymakers are an indeterminate variety, wg, meaning they will keep on growing and producing fruit during the season. They can reach 6' or more unless you nip out the growing tips. For indeterminates, as a rule of thumb, the bigger the pot the better to let them reach their full potential.

Given that, you also have to factor in your available space, including access to sunlight for as long as possible during the day, and how many plants you want.

Once you get into pots below 30cm (in diameter) you start to compromise their potential. But, as I say, you are ultimately at the mercy of the available space.

One important thing, though. The plants will need to be staked and tied up to the stakes. Stakes in pots can be a problem if the pot isn't deep enough to give the stake decent stability. A strong wind can tip everything over.

 

Tomatoes

Posted: 29/05/2013 at 13:48
windowgardener wrote (see)

hi, i am a new gardener. i live in a flat so i don't have a garden but i decided to try grow tomatoes and peppers.
I stupidly planted the whole pack of seeds so now have 50 plants.

Just wondering how deep and wide an area of compost 1 plant  needs.

its just so i can figure out what size of pots/how many pots/how many plants per pot.

appreciate any help!

Usually one plant per pot, regardless. But the varieties dictate the sizes of the pots. Indeterminate varieties, those that can grow to 5-6' feet or more, need bigger pots than determinate varieties (otherwise known as "bush" varieties).

Tell us which variety/ies you have and we can give you a guide.

Growing melons in a greenhouse

Posted: 29/05/2013 at 10:31

Andy, you can let them sprawl if you have the space or grow them up something like a trellis. Melons are heavier than cukes so their suport will need to be strong enough. I wouldn't encourage too much humidity around them either. Could be asking for fungal troubles.

Tomatoes

Posted: 29/05/2013 at 09:39

It's pretty simple, Bf. The healthiest- and strongest-looking make the cut. The runts get a one-way trip to the compost heap. Sad, but that's life. It sounds like you've already got a handle on it.

Those temps sound very good. They won't need a lot of hardening off.

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