Jim Macd


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Cowslip dying?

Posted: 11/05/2014 at 18:19

I got a nice, pinky, purple one come up, I really can't say what the parent was since the leaves are tiny. I have P. scotica 

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/45478.jpg?width=318&height=350&mode=max

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/45479.jpg?width=375&height=350&mode=max

and P. farinosa

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/45480.jpg?width=300&height=350&mode=max

 

which are really tiny so it's possible they could be one parent. Who knows? Here it is, not a great photo but the only one I could find. 

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/45481.jpg?width=390&height=350&mode=max

 

 

Cowslip dying?

Posted: 11/05/2014 at 16:19

Oh, the thread has been hijacked. Why do people do this. get your own thread.

Cowslip dying?

Posted: 11/05/2014 at 15:01

Hi lg I'm sure you have. According to Stace, 'New Flora of the British Isles', the red-brown form does exist albeit rarely, but I think it's more likely if it's being sold in a GC to be a hybrid, and without a genetic test we'd never know if it were a pure P. veris. However this

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3212/4554645585_4a1021edc0_z.jpg

 

that Swedboy linked is most definitely a hybrid. And an ex-cowslip.

Cowslip dying?

Posted: 11/05/2014 at 12:02
Swedboy wrote (see)

My red one came from a nursery who sold it with a lable saying Primula Veris Orange with Yellow.

To me it looks like a cowslip but from the photos I have seen its really had to tell the difference. Sadly  I have no photos of my red one only one I found via google.

Well, you can't rely on nurseries to label accurately unfortunately. They will more often than not 'dumb down' their labels because people like to 'know' what they're buying.  I have never seen a true orange or red Cowslip. You have to remember that primulas are one of the most promiscuous plants in the garden. They even have two other 'genders'. Pin and thrum. 

Astrantia

Posted: 11/05/2014 at 11:51
nutcutlet wrote (see)

I accidentally created a white garden years ago. I never manage co-ordination when it comes to colour and timing.

I didn't like it much, a bit unnatural

 

nutcutlet wrote (see)

I accidentally created a white garden years ago. I never manage co-ordination when it comes to colour and timing.

I didn't like it much, a bit unnatural

Yeah I agree, your eye gets very bored with it very quickly. A friend of mine in London did it. It was a very nice garden but I wanted to throw a packet of poppy seeds over it every time I went.

Astrantia

Posted: 10/05/2014 at 16:49

I bought one plant, it's only just started growing so I've not had the pleasure of seeing it in flower yet. But they look a beautiful colour. I couldn't do a Sissinghurst white garden.

Cowslip dying?

Posted: 10/05/2014 at 16:45
nutcutlet wrote (see)

I've got vulgaris/veris crosses. Most of them are too big and 'cultivated' in appearance for the wild parts of the garden where they grow.

and you're right Jim, if they have a common name it might as well be cowslip

 

The hybrids I have are only in the front and were due to my stupidity, I removed the seed beds and scattered them in some grass on the other side (so they're all still small), not thinking for a second they'd have hybridised. There's one down in the entrance to the meadows which is huge in comparison the species. That's hybrid vigour for you.

That reminds me. I bought seeds of Geranium sanguineum lancastriense from Chiltern seeds, not one of them came through pink, all red. They told me, " you need to understand that they're all open pollinated." So I said, "well you need to understand that your description said Geranium sanguineum lancastriense and if they're open pollinated then they can't be Geranium sanguineum lancastriense so I'd like a refund thanks. I got one.

Cowslip dying?

Posted: 10/05/2014 at 16:30

Only two left, the top one is a hybrid, false oxlip and the bottom is a cowslip, P. veris.

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/45298.jpg?width=266&height=350&mode=max

comparing these makes me think yours is a Cowslip x 'Oxlip type' hybrid. Sorry, Oxlip is P. elatior. See photos on this page, not read the text. 

 

By, the way, not all reports say P. veris x vulgaris is sterile. But it isn't easy to tell the P.veris x oxlip type hybrid apart from the P.veris x vulgaris hybrid.

 

 

Cowslip dying?

Posted: 10/05/2014 at 16:12

They're definitely false oxlip type hybrids from someones garden. They could well come true from seed if a small population had become established and the true oxlip is a parent but they're not pure cowslips, Primula veris. They could even be Primula vulgaris x veris type, again the p.vulgaris type coming from someones garden. If that's the case then it's likely to be sterile. The size of the flower tells you it's not a cowslip, that is P. veris though the red spots tell you it's a hybrid. A very lovely one though. I've got a few P. ve. x P. vu. and they are very similar in morphology to that. If they're still in flower I'll get a photo. I don't know why it died, though. Could be a whole host of reasons. 

Astrantia

Posted: 10/05/2014 at 15:57

I wish I could stop mine growing. I get hundreds of them and have to hoe them every year. They've somehow spread from the front garden into my meadow at the back and theres' hundreds of them. I wish I could get all the native stuff to grow so easily into grass without all the faff of growing plugs. I'm sure they'll be fine Louise, they're well known for being prolific. I bought seed last year too, my OH thought I'd gone crazy, well, we only have Astrantia major, the species, so wanted some variety. Mine seem to have sat there doing nothing too. 

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