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Referendum, Doesn't it make you spit!!

Posted: 19/06/2016 at 16:00
Doghouse Riley says:

Hostafan1 says:

I for one, do not think " the NHS has gone to the dogs" I'm  a huge fan.

Yes there are problems, yes there is waste, and yes, we could, and some would argue , should spent more money on it. But I've never come across a system I'd like to see replace it.

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Well, I speak from personal experience, that of our son's partner's, a career nurse at the MRI, our daughter's,  a nurse first at GOS and later St Mary's Paddington and that of my wife's,  a long term sufferer of MS and cancer. They all think the NHS has gone to the dogs.

Unfortunately, there's generations who have no experience of how much better was the care,  (not necessarily the cures) in past decades,  when the service wasn't as over-stretched..

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 I don't think you need to go back decades to see a deterioration in the NHS.  With my GP, just a few years ago, you could get a non-urgent appointment within a couple of days.  Now you will have to wait 2 or 3 weeks.  In fact just looking at the surgery's on-line booking system they have appointments on 4th of July and then nothing until the 18th of July.  Even non-urgent could become very urgent in that timescale.  It is massively over stretched, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it's gone to the dogs - YET.

Karen Carpenter goodbye to love

Posted: 19/06/2016 at 12:33
Logan says:

Hi all,i'm a carpenter fan got all the albums.I know how Karen died,but watching the documentary I didn't realise how bad she was.Richard Carpenter would have to agree to be shown so it must be true.What do you all think about it?

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 I haven't seen the programme, but to assume every part of the content must be true because her brother contributed to it isn't necessarily true.  Unless he commissioned the programme I very much doubt he had editorial control over it.

It's very rare for any programme to have access to all the facts, or to be totally unbiased in the presentatation of the facts they do have.  From the programmes I have seen she does seem to have had a pretty rough time of it.

Referendum, Doesn't it make you spit!!

Posted: 19/06/2016 at 12:15
Liriodendron says:

Sorry KT53 - missed you there.

The fact that India has a space programme doesn't mean our aid money ever went to finance it.  We didn't just send the Indian government a cheque for its money box...

Incidentally, I agree with your distaste for Steve's turn of phrase.  However passionately we feel (and I do too!), there's no excuse for slagging off those with a different point of view, even when we are absolutely convinced they are wrong...

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 Our money may not have gone directly to the Indian space programme, but obviously any money we gave them the humanitarian aid freed up that amount for them to spend on other projects.  Surely nobody really believes that aid money is simply added to the amount the recipient country was planning to use for their own aid projects.

Even if it is, the recipient country should get their own priorities sorted before we fund anything.  If they can afford to spend billions on a space programme they haven't needed our financial support for many years.

Referendum, Doesn't it make you spit!!

Posted: 19/06/2016 at 09:33
Steve the Gardening Vet says:

For the spittle lipped few, UK aid to India stopped last year and China receives pretty much nothing. 

I'd be very ashamed if we, as a nation, stopped giving money to try to help those less fortunate than ourselves. 

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 "The spittle lipped few"!   I presume by that you mean anybody who has a different view to your own, and has the temerity to express it.  What a wonderful democracy you seem to espouse.

How many years has the Indian space programme been going?  I bet it's more than one year.  Aid should have stopped as soon as it was known that India was effectively spending our aid money on un-necessary projects.

Referendum, Doesn't it make you spit!!

Posted: 18/06/2016 at 22:43
Liriodendron says:

KT53, re foreign aid.  Britain currently spends 0.7% of its gross national income on foreign aid - this level is a UN (note, not EU) commitment which all developed countries are supposed to adhere to.  Not all do.  (Sweden gives 1.4%; USA a smaller percentage but the largest overall amount.)

40% of the aid goes to "multilateral organisations" like the United Nations; the rest is paid directly to developing countries.  The biggest amount last year was paid to Africa, £2.54 bn.  "Developing countries" still includes China and India, which is a problem for many people and I believe something is to be done about it - though the government say both countries still have a huge population of rural poor who need help.

Surprisingly, surveys suggest the vast majority of Britons are in favour of this degree of aid provision, seeing it as our moral obligation.  Politicians say, in addition, that aid prevents failed states from becoming lawless havens for terrorists, builds long-term markets for British goods, and reduces the likelihood of mass migration due to famine etc.

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 No idea what happened with the previous post, but what I was saying is that at no point have I said I'm opposed to foreign aid.  I am opposed to a % figure being set as it simply encourages spending on worthless projects simply to hit targets.  The money needs to be controlled totally by UK based organisations to prevent it going to corrupt governments or individuals.

Referendum, Doesn't it make you spit!!

Posted: 18/06/2016 at 22:40
Liriodendron says:
Surprisingly, surveys suggest the vast majority of Britons are in favour of this degree of aid provision, seeing it as our moral obligation.  .See original post


Referendum, Doesn't it make you spit!!

Posted: 18/06/2016 at 21:47
Liriodendron says:

I know the NHS isn't being supported.  It's scandalous.  But I don't think cutting the foreign aid budget is the answer.

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 If foreign aid was actually spent on useful projects I might be inclined to agree.  When you see the reports of the wastage, mis management and corruption around foreign aid the agreement is less easy to give.

Any dahias which don't need to be lifted?

Posted: 18/06/2016 at 19:31

Thanks for the suggestions.  I might just give them a try.

Any dahias which don't need to be lifted?

Posted: 18/06/2016 at 18:14

We're in Gloucestershire.  Fairly sheltered but do get our share of rain and frosts.  We are protected by the Cotswold escarpment from the worst of the winter.

Any dahias which don't need to be lifted?

Posted: 18/06/2016 at 17:51

My missus loves dahlias but I honestly can't be bothered with digging up the tubers and storing them every year.  Are there any dahlias which can simply be planted in the borders and forgotten about?

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