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Independence Day?

Posted: 25/06/2016 at 20:04

I hear there's a missing person appeal out for some bloke called George Osborne.  Apparently he has been missing now for nearly 48 hours

Independence Day?

Posted: 25/06/2016 at 17:12

There are claims being made that because there was less than 75% turnout and below 60% in favour of leaving, there are grounds for the referendum to be rerun.  I have no idea whether or not there is any basis in law for those claims.


Jimmy Crawford is also correct in saying that the referendum vote is not binding on the Government, although it's hard to see how they could simply turn round and say they are going to ignore it.  What is potential more of an issue is that over 70% of MPs are in favour of staying in the EU and they could vote down the bill to come out.  Now that could make for an 'interesting' situation.

Independence Day?

Posted: 25/06/2016 at 11:19

From what I'm hearing and reading, the 2 year timetable is anything but.  It's 2 years from the time the formal request is put in by the UK government, oh - and it can be extended 'if necessary'.  Who knows how long it will actually take. 


If other EU countries also decide to have referendums (referenda?) during that period, and also vote Out, things in Brussels could become extremely complicated.

Independence Day?

Posted: 24/06/2016 at 22:05
fidgetbones says:

It's a democracy. Those who didn't vote can't complain.


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 Normally I would agree, but in this instance not voting wasn't necessarily because people didn't care.


There was so much spin, exaggeration and downright lying going on I suspect many people didn't feel they had enough accurate information to work with to make an informed decision. 

Independence Day?

Posted: 24/06/2016 at 19:26
clairegreenlow says:


I have yet to hear any Brexit supporter provide me with a sensible reason why they voted out. Always bloody 'immigrants'. Do they not realise the 'immigrants' against whom they show so much disdain will still come here with us out of the EU? The only people this effects are the immigrants who they would probably approve of (no matter how wrong that may be) - doctors, nurses, scientists


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 I would suggest that many (maybe a majority) of those who voted OUT do not have any problem with immigration per-se.  The problem is with uncontrolled immigration, which is what we currently have from the EU, and which is only likely to get worse when additional countries join.  As has rightly been mentioned, we do need immigration, always have and always will. I have no disdain for immigrants.


Along with that we need the right to determine who can and cannot come to this country.  If there is a need for skilled labour (and I emphasise 'skilled') then allow them to come, as every civilized country does. 


I believe the second major reason for voting OUT is to escape the profligacy of the EU machine.  The £350 million per day figure is totally inaccurate, but even if the net figure was a quarter of that, the money is better retained with local control.  How anybody can support a system which shifts its headquarters for a few days every month is beyond me.

Independence Day?

Posted: 24/06/2016 at 19:15
Hostafan1 says:

I am and always have been a democrat,. My point was that to say " nobody believed" when the margin was so slim is just silly.


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 I was referring to the boy who cried wolf when I said it ended up with nobody believing him, not directly referring to Osborne.  That said, I do think that the wild claims made by BOTH SIDES, damaged their credibility severely.  If either/both sides had put forward their arguments in full from the start maybe the outcome would have been different.  The reality is we will never know

Independence Day?

Posted: 24/06/2016 at 12:30
Hostafan1 says:

48.1% voted to remain.


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 Yes, and 51.9% voted to leave.  It's called democracy.  A higher % in favour of the "winner" than in most other votes taken in the UK, be that parliamentary, union etc.


In the Scottish independence referendum 45% voted to leave and the government claimed it as a resounding victory.  There is only a 3% difference in this one.


Interestingly too, voices are already being raised by some other EU leaders that things must change within the EU.  I can only assume they are starting to worry that other countries will go the same way as the UK.  Whether people thing we should be in or out, surely nobody really believes that the EU in its current form is really fit for purpose.  There were supposed to be strict fiscal rules to stop member countries building up too much debt.  Which was the first country to break those rules - Germany!


Likewise, strict criteria for eligibility to join the EU, but few if any of the more recent tranches of countries to join came anywhere close to fulfilling those requirements.  That didn't stop them joining.

Independence Day?

Posted: 24/06/2016 at 10:34

Whatever our opinions of the outcome, we are where we are now and need to look to the future.  Part of the volatility of the £ is down to currency speculators who thought last night that they could make a killing because they believed the Remain vote would win.  Hopefully they will have take a massive hit.


The £ has already recovered by 5 cents from the opening low and will quite possibly recover further during the day.  Let's give the markets time to digest what has happened, and for the initial knee jerk reactions to die down.


I believe a major factor in the Out camp winning was the ever more dire, and unbelievable, spoutings by Osborne about the effects of leaving the EU.  If he really believed the claims, why weren't they all laid out on day one of the campaign?  It ended up like the boy who cried wolf, in the end nobody believed ANYTHING he said even when he was telling the truth.

Mares Tail- what to do?

Posted: 21/06/2016 at 22:38

I certainly wouldn't burn plants just because marestail is growing through them.  Marestail tends not to like competition so strong growth of other plants will help control it.  Keep pulling the marestail as it grows and that will also weaken it.

Weed n Feed

Posted: 21/06/2016 at 18:34

I have used the 4 in 1, which I presume is Weed and Feed plus 2 other things.  To the best of my knowledge I'm not any more gaga than I was before using it.  No children have appeared in the garden since application so it seems that it does stop them. 

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