Michael Sands

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Posted: 19/07/2016 at 02:58

Thanks Nanny, I googed to see and got this site, http://www.marinrose.org/rugosaroses.html I see Topaz Jewel is a yellow rugosa?

Selling plants could open a box of trouble with licences / passports and then the tax man? I should look into it further myself and get a knowledge base from that and try a few other seed / plant companies I think?


Posted: 18/07/2016 at 03:00

Wakeshine, I was told it was too similar to others out there but it does have a day glow red to it with hints of purple, sometimes the digital cameras can't pick that slight hint up sometimes. It is a F2 variety I bred, I am delighted with it but pity it was deemed too similar to others on the market but that is life.

I wouldn't sell it incase I broke some law as selling new plant species might lead to an headache for me and then if someone bought it and then said they bred it, where would that leave me? Such is life but it is nice lol.


Posted: 18/07/2016 at 02:47

Aym280, I have always enjoyed doing that since I was a boy. I started with polyanthus, a friend of my father saw them (as they were nearly black in colour as I crossed an old dark (unknown) red variety with a new dark purple-ish blue) and when their offspring were in flower he wanted them. I foolishly gave all of them away, kicking myself ever since but I spend my spare time as I say messing in the garden over the years.

I just like breeding plants, I once got the skin and colour of a Garden Peach tomato onto the size and shape of a Black Russian tomato and it was orange but it had a nice taste. But it took as long as a Black Russian to ripen. I sent those seeds away as well, as the seeds from those plants were from a few years of self pollination as F1 hybrids are not stable, it takes a second and a third year to see what they would be like. It is a game of time and curiosity. Another tomato I bred all had a thing like a finger sticking out of them, funny looking but breeding does that as you get freaks and mutants sometimes.

I think the key to breeding is to have enough space to grow all the seeds you get from what you are breeding and enough pots lol. The thing is with gardening it seems each gardener has a few plants that they could never do without and breeding them seems the most fun to do. Aren't hellebores a bit difficult to breed because they can so easily cross breed with any hellebore, so it takes more work to make sure you get what you want and then there are the nice accident lol.


Posted: 17/07/2016 at 00:53

Thanks Wakeshine, It does look like a peony rose but when you breed anything that belongs to the rose family, you just never know what you end up with. It was a nice surprise but I see how the trials go first and if they want it as I hope they do. I would love to have it out there as it would be nice to name a rose after a family member.


Posted: 17/07/2016 at 00:44

Aym280, I am always breeding plants for the fun of it, here is two photos of a Pelargonium that I bred. I did sent it off to be inspected by a seed company but they said it was too similar to ones already on the market but it does be fun doing it as you never know what you get from doing it.


Posted: 17/07/2016 at 00:14

Thanks aym280, I have bred this years ago probably 2008/9 but I am always breeding just for the fun of it as it is a cheap way to get more plants for nothing. I normally just breed tomatoes and Polyanthus but decided to try roses just for the fun of it, really for curiousity.                                                                              So I collected the seeds of the roses and stuck them into a pot that I left out over winter. So by Spring there was a rose growing in the pot and I decided to keep it to see what the flower was going to be like.

Thanks Richard Hodson, It has an old rose sweet smell, but it is not as strong as I would like it to be based on the cross that I used but yet in hot weather it does be a good sweet old rose fragrance. It never produces any hips although in hot weather it does produce pollen.

Thanks Ladybird4, nice photo as well. I like the redish pink rugosas myself and then when the hips get ripe they turn transparent, that is when the birds start to eat the flesh and seeds then but it can drive the poor bumble bees mad lol.

Thanks Wakeshine.

Thanks Toxicdrip, I think I will call it after a family member, not too sure if that is a good way to name roses. I have to think about it as it is with a reliable rose breeder at the moment to value it, so heres hoping?

Thanks Liriodendron, I have it with a reliable rose breeder now for evaluation, if they see merit in it then we will see. Fingers cross, I just asked out of curiosity here and I have a bit of self doubt but it will take a few years to know if it is any good?

Nutcutlet, I won't give too much away but it is an old Gallica type rose. Not being rude just careful in a public forum.

Thanks Tina, I have mine in a pot as it does produce a few root suckers, only 2 or 3 per year but that is rugosa's nature I believe.

Last edited: 17 July 2016 00:25:32


Posted: 16/07/2016 at 03:37


I was curious and wanted to know if a Rosa rugosa hybrid that I bred looks like a decent rose or if it is too rough looking for a rose, it looks more like Peony rose instead and it has no hips but has a sweet sent. I am curious to know thanks.

The second photo was taken by a camera phone, so a bit dull.

What is this Beetle

Posted: 31/05/2016 at 04:04

Thanks, once they don't do much harm I'm happy lol.

What is this Beetle

Posted: 28/05/2016 at 13:49

Thanks Alan, it seems that I only ever see one every year. So not a problem yet... I tried googling beetles for years to find out what it was and never found out till now, thanks.

What is this Beetle

Posted: 28/05/2016 at 13:41

Thanks Ladybird4, is it only grassroots he feeds on. I live in Ireland and I was wondering what he was as he has been a visitor here for a number of years now...

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