Good attitude Zenjeff
It was a good trip, I'll see if I've got any photos worth showing.
My first thought was elder but not if no smell.
After a year outside it's not necessarily what you sowed.
Did you plant that a year ago as a plant, or sow seed a year ago?
Is there any smell to the leaves if you squeeze them?
cuckoo spit, there'll be a little insect inside, a froghopper. Not a worry.
the leaves of the second look like the three part leaves of a trefoil to me. the coronillas I've seen have pinnate leaves with more leaflets
There are mountains of shreddings here every year. I need big. OH had to lower the top by about a foot so I could reach.
DANGER EVERYWHERE PANSYFACE
I STUFFED IT THROUGH THE SHREDDER
MADE A BIG HEAP OF SHREDDINGS
THEN HAD A SHOWER, (NO PHOTO AVAILABLE)
NO NEW PATCHES BUT THE LAST LOT DIDN'T APPEAR TIL THE NEXT DAY