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I used a mattock, all gone now.
Buddleia is obviously right whatever the official line is now.
I have Brumbull ignored. The name on my ignored list has changed to sotongeoff.It's the same person. I never ignored sotongeoff, I never ignored anyone until recently
I don't think school latin helps much. Plant names are based on a mixture of languages and none of it bears any relation to what I learnt at school. Not that I learnt much. I failed my first latin exam and went downhill from there
Even those that set themselves up as experts vary in their pronunciation of the names so I think we can do as we like
I wouldn't worry Lily. If someone behaves reasonably, treat them reasonably. If they don't, ignore them.
They are perennials and not that far off hardy. At a previous garden we had a crumbly wall and they became almost shrubby in that after a few years
PS. I love the name, havadayoff
If they self seed outside they're a lot tougher than those grown inside then put out.
I'm hoping mine have self seeded, I forgot to collect any last autumn
It's been that way for me for a long time.
Underplant with bulbs and corms maybe.