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tree peony leaves limp

Posted: 21/05/2014 at 14:04

In that case MNG it looks as if it has taken and is settling, the early morning sun damages the flower buds so it will be OK for a year or so in the meanwhile you could put some other plant in place to shade it from that early sun.

They are slow to build up and will not flower for a while though I have known them get one single flower in  the early years, I have one now five years old with three flowers on though the main ones are a mass of buds, they have been in many years.

Good Luck with them, Frank.

tree peony leaves limp

Posted: 21/05/2014 at 11:17

Depends on which picture you call first, the top picture looks as if some TLC is needed the bottom picture what I would expect from a plant that is taking.

Paeonia tree or otherwise are hungry plants, it is policy to prepare the ground with plenty of fibrous and well rotted compost first. The plant needs to be planted at exactly the same level it was in the pot, do not cover the root ball with soil or anything, water it in.

Spread a mulch of compost around the root ball although not touching it and water that in.

Position should be late morning and evening sun so South and West facing never East facing as they can be damage by early morning frosts which we are still getting then the early sun thaws them too quickly. It could lay dormant for a couple of years then take off and last a lifetime, if you did it all by the book it would flower in three to five years though only a few flowers at first. Give it time.


How old are your gardens

Posted: 21/05/2014 at 10:59

Artjak, My Father moved things all the time as he gardened on a rotation basis, each year permanent plants or some of them would be moved as he prepared the soil for the rotation it would go:- Right Son prepare the hole for this plant there, I would dig out the new hole mix in plenty of well rotted compost from the midden and then we wou;ld dig well away from the root ball and with spade or fork would gently ease the root ball free. It would go onto a potato sack back then be carried to the new position and planted firmly well watered in and watered daily after, we got used to moving things and I never knew him lose anything. The Geum was moved from back to front then each side of the house, it just sulked, on its last move I told it, thrive or the compost and it is glorious at this moment. The Deutzia was in full sun and hated it so got moved to shade and hated it the final move part sun part shade is what it wanted and looks like a bridal gown as I look up the garden.

Verdun I could see your garden as you described it and as we are also on a hill near the North East Coast I know the salt problem, quite often we can taste the salt in the sea mist that turns to sunshine half a mile behind me.

Most of my early gardens were vegetable for the simple reason I was away a lot, over the years I did the Modern touch everything new, Roses with no scent, bedding add nausium flowers that were here and gone because the position or weather did not suit them until retirement and a good old sort out. My Daughter has gone all minimal and I will not let her touch my garden, maximum use of every space plus pots galore.

The gardens reflect out souls, we become part of it knowing the plants as we would old and trusted friends, our own Eden on earth what could be better.


How old are your gardens

Posted: 20/05/2014 at 22:48

How old is your garden better still how old are your plants. Being brought up during my childhood and youth to know a very old walled garden, a Father who was brought up from an early age looking after the garden and small holding whose one and only interest was gardening. Well not quite he was a gentle quiet man who loved boxing, not the taking part, he let me do that but could talk about the subject and never missed the local bouts held in the club. His motto was if you cannot eat it or sell it do not bother growing it, this did not apply to his Peony's Arum Lilies, Chrysanthemums Lilac bushes Lily of the valley and Carnations, all of which he showed and won prizes with.

So was I spoilt well yes the gardens I have owned over the years never came up to the standard I had grown up with, saying that I never had stables or animals for natures tonic as we had in the old house.

My garden today I say is 31 years old, a new build with lawns back front and sides, a couple of Lawsonia a Thuja and a couple of crab apples all on the front and no bigger than my grandchildren. Then started the make over plants from the old home, my Parents moved as it got too much for them, we had buckets pots and cuttings which all found a place. A peony that was older than my Dad, A Juniperas my Mother kept in a pot which was twenty years old when I got it.

Some of those plants have been all over the garden until they found the place they loved, The Geum had six moves and this year is giving me the best show yet. The Deutzia Gracilis a pure white I saw today is in full blossom after three moves, the Paeonia are coming one after the other and thriving, the carnations need splitting and more cuttings taken. There are many more newer plants yet the old ones are the ones I love, the question being just how old are our gardens.

New Lawn help

Posted: 20/05/2014 at 13:55

Ighten, It depends on what seed you put down, it comes in many varieties and in your case looking at the blown up picture needs a tough old boot of a seed. If you rake over the bare patches and sow with a mix of compost or sand and seed it should take and begin to spread in no time. It is on a bank so it could also be dry, give it plenty of water at first. Do not try feeding until it has had a few cuts, blades up give it a chance. Back end a winter feed and weed which is slow release then Spring once it starts growing again a summer feed and weed, you may need to do that again six weeks later.

Grass takes time and needs to build from the roots up, give it time and if things are no better by the end of the growing season then is the time to think turf. As a by the way, I put down a lawn of turf against all advice two weeks before Christmas five years ago. It was a south facing aspect sheltered from prevailing winds and had a wall behind it to take in the suns heat and give it back, that lawn thrived and now looks better than my established lawns.


Music in the Garden

Posted: 20/05/2014 at 11:22

Orchid Lady, do what I did when dragged to see my lovely Grandson and his band as they fronted a top line Pop Group at what they call "err" is it a Gig.

I took plenty of ear plugs and cotton wool and they were needed, the music was not of my world I might say any world although the crowd went mad. I did realise through my gathering deafness that they were lost in the "err" music as they gyrated all over the stage to the screams of the masses of girls and women who had taken over the front of the place. I managed to escape to a bar once they had done their bit in getting the girls off on a high, (excuse some of the language I am not a pop fan), He was on a real bouncing high when he found me so I made all the right noises, he is after all my grandson.

Well to sum up, I had dipped my toe into the modern world was pleased and appalled at the same time and now he is a steady hard working engaged lad doing up his own house. The band gave him the grit to keep going when rejected, the confidence to go on a massive stage many times and perform, the realism that not all will make it so you change direction. I wish your little drummer joy in what he does, my grandson also found that, he still plays without the mad gyrations.



Posted: 20/05/2014 at 11:04

Dry sandy soil does not need peat, it wants plenty of part rotted compost, manure, Paper, Cardboard, self grown green fertiliser dug into it, digging peat in would be a waste of time money and something I miss badly for young plants having not found a good substitute, I do still manage to get some and the greens do not worry me, if big growers can still get it why not us old lads and lasses.

My Father had sandy soil I often pass that old garden and it still grows wonderful vegetables though Dad is long gone. We dug masses of straw mixed with manure into it every year and the soil was wonderful, Hard work required I know but in the end you will get there.



Posted: 20/05/2014 at 10:52

Italophile, Probably you are correct in Italy, here in the Northeast of England with one foot in the sea not so. They need a steady temperature plenty of TLC and liquid sunshine in the form of feed. Night temperature here can drop dramatically a green house is essential to try and keep even heat and my greenhouse being a lean to with a solid South facing brick wall manages to do that hence the tomato's are often weeks ahead of other growers. We garden to our own weather and conditions, In southern Europe I have seen tomato's grown as a field crop it could not happen here.

The ideal way is to grow more than you need then keep the strongest plants to grow on, that way you do not encourage disease, none of us want that among our lovely plants.



Posted: 20/05/2014 at 10:37

Rosemummy, Read your mail again and realised the established plants you have are older ones that need a bit of TLC. it will be next year now before they pick up although the foliage should be clean and shiny. If this is not so cut out any stalks of leaves that show disease browning shrivelling, once it has flowered remove the dead flower heads now to work. Make a mulch of compost, home made if you have it, add some bone meal and granular fertiliser, well rotted manure if possible for those that have it, most will not. Now put a thick mulch around the root ball but not touching it, never cover the top is my experience they do not like it, water in. Repeat that again late summer.

Spring cut down all the old foliage and lightly brush any debris away from the root, another mulch and it will be away growing its head off. Always stake and string the plant will grow through and cover it. They love South and West facing mine have that although the Rosa Plena is in a spot where it only gets the afternoon and evening sun, it thrives.

They can suffer Paeonia wilt, Brown spot and buds failing to open, the latter is usually to dry and not enough feed as with any plant water feed cleanliness are essential.



Posted: 19/05/2014 at 23:55

Rosemummy Paeonia is the given name although it should be "wait for it" Paeoniaceae and was once called Ranunculaceae. now most people say Peony.

The red ones will be Rubra-plena once called Officinalis but they have been superseded by crosses. How old are the plants they take years to grow and I have a Rubra put in four years ago that has produced just three large beautiful flowers this year, that was after I threatened it. The original Rubra 20 years old has masses of flowers ready to open. I also have Rosa -Plena a delicate pink with white edges which will come into flower after the Rubra.

I do not know the Sarah Bernhardt but what you describe will take three years minimum to flower and probably longer, these are long lived plants and need time to settle and build up root before they will start flowering, well that is my experience over very many years. A late snap frost could have damaged the flowering bud you can only wait and see. This forum is to answer questions from people with problems, if we were not happy answering we would not be here so ask away.

Peanuts3 Stake your plant and scrape away the soil on the top of the root ball though I would raise it now. Take as big a root ball as you can and gently lift then prod plenty of rich compost under and tamp it down, more rich compost around it and tread it in then water freely, keep it staked. Three or four canes around the plant with interwoven string will keep it safe. Make sure the original top of the root ball is clear and when feeding or mulching add it in a ring about a foot from the plant. I leave the foliage on the plant over winter as a frost guard and clear it away in Spring.


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