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manure

Posted: 17/09/2012 at 23:09

Peat Ballan, why would you bother moving a heavy frame around the garden when all you need do is spread the compost dig it in and plant.
The hot beds I saw used would be set up in the new year early to give heat for things you wanted early.
I think you assume the horse manure would leech into the ground under the box, well it was usually in an unwanted spot that got light but shelter from the cold winds, easy for us with a walled garden.
The base was a covering of straw bales then raw manure then more straw and a covering of soil, you had to wait for it to get up to heat, an old thermometer came in handy. These days I would use a sand box with cables and a thermostat, same result a lot less work and more control.
Horse manure in now more usually mixed with wood chippings where we once used straw, a much better mix for rotting down than wood chip but straw is expensive and in short supply, wood chip cheaper cleaner and plentiful.
The problem with any kind of wood used in manure or as mulch it takes the Nitrogen out of the ground so not recommended, well not by me.

Frank.

Digging problem

Posted: 17/09/2012 at 19:01

Jo, try a hire firm for a motivator they would know what size and for a few hours or a days hire worth it. They deliver and pick up and will give you or some one a run through on how to use it.
Or B&Q sell pick axes cheap, I have one, you can use the pointed end to break up the ground or the spade end you whack it in then use the handle as a lever.
It will be hard graft so have you got a handy man gardener near who would turn it for you.

Frank.

manure

Posted: 17/09/2012 at 17:47

Yes Alan, memories of my father feeding us and our extended family who did not have gardens from his walled garden during and after the war. Those times appear to be back as people have to watch what they spend although they also find the true taste of produce straight from the garden, wash the soil off and into the pan. The huge store could have had the Veg out back for weeks and it starts to lose taste the second it is pulled.
It is not easy and you have mishaps, bad summers, disease, dry spells or too much rain, gardeners need the patience of job but it is worth it. By sowing in batches you can have fresh food from early spring to late Autumn and once you do it will be hard to stop.
Good luck and the people on here are friendly and helpful so just ask.

Frank.

manure

Posted: 17/09/2012 at 16:24
Peat Ballan wrote (see)

If horses have a non-conducive digestive system for manure heaps, and weeds grow in the soil from therewithin, why is it recommended to use fresh horse muck for hot beds ??? All these different opinions seem to cancel each other out .

Good question, why use fresh manure.
Our hot beds were a wooden box made by my Father into which would go straw then a good layer of fresh manure more straw and a good covering of soil.
The heat caused by the reaction of the fresh manure would raise the temperature of the soil into which we could plant those items needing some root warmth to grow, Dad would grow a melon on the hot bed a luxury when I was a kid.
ON the farm where there was a heap of organic or animal waste mainly horse dung a hole would be dug in the steaming pile some soil shovelled in and a plant put in to grow on the rising warmth helping the plant.
At the end of its use the whole box was emptied straw and all onto the compost, we had a large brick midden full of the stuff, my job was to fork it over now and then and then the now mature horse manure would go in the base of the potato trenches or be spread on the soil as it was dug over.
There were no organic fertilisers for gardeners back then and electric cable warming boxes with thermostat which I have now would have been beyond the reach of gardeners, forever putting a penny in the meter.
Boxes of seed or seedlings could be put on the hot bed to give some bottom heat, a couple of batons across the top with the boxes on the batons would raise them so it was not too warm for some plants.
Any seed in the mix would be killed by the rising heat and smothered by the straw.
Frank.

Fork Handles

Posted: 17/09/2012 at 13:32

In defence of one of our posters who lives in Holland or Nederland, Amsterdam is not Holland as London is not England, probably the same ladies in those pink windows though.
It is Friesland, Groningen and Limburg, while in Germany we would shoot over the border to Valkenburg Hollands mountains, well they did have a chair lift and the best custard tarts with rice I ever ate.
Many times when they knew we were forces they would not let us buy a drink, the 51st Highland Div were the ones who took that part of Holland from the Germans and they remember to this day, wonderful people, wonderful country.

Frank.

manure

Posted: 17/09/2012 at 13:10
keiths lemon wrote (see)

Palaisglide what is your son eating?

Horse pies with the shoes still on.

Frank.

What's the weather like in your area?

Posted: 17/09/2012 at 12:09

Sunshine in Stockton, not what the box says but who cares, it is warm and the windows are open to let the fresh air through. Busy with the clean up in case Daughter pops over from Cyprus to see what I am up to, she probably has hidden camera's in the rooms to make sure I do not laze about.
I had a job getting onto this board this morning so gave up, had too much else to-do, at times it is very slow, I have stopped bothering on a Sunday night it is usually a no show, last night late I managed though.

Frank.

manure

Posted: 16/09/2012 at 23:46

Pam no it is not OK, mix it with your compost making sure it is well dug in and leave. Raw it will burn your plants and as the horse does not have good digestion it will be full of seeds that will grow like mad in your nice fresh soil.
I use it off my Sons heap after it has matured for a couple of years.

Frank.

What's the weather like in your area?

Posted: 16/09/2012 at 23:41

True posh, we do not have the vicious attacks at times suffered on some boards, the SCD was one of the worst, 30 odd posts disappeared one night including some of ours, they did re-appear but were then out of context. Not so good old days.
I do have trouble trying to follow some of the threads on here, they lose me in the one liners so I just stop looking.
My colour taste was shaped by the years in the Desert, I went on to Cyprus and the tropical plants and colours were a bit like being in heaven, the eye's had ached for colour, it has been with me since so no colour rings or themes, bung em in and let them bloom, guess we are all our own people in the end.

Frank.

What's the weather like in your area?

Posted: 16/09/2012 at 22:18

Hello Posh, one lot landed in America yesterday that is why I have Alfy, t'other lot landed in Canada Friday and Pam is in Cyprus for another week yet so I consider myself on my holidays. No rushing around, please myself and relax.
I did a small piece of ham with a honey and brown sugar glaze and the usual veg and Yorkshires but later and a lot less of it.
Had a nice lattice apple pie a couple of hours ago then watched Gently, the one man and his dog were taken off because of golf.
The weather turned nasty though the box still says cloudy I do not know why they bother.
I was locked out on this board earlier and had to sign in again twice, as I never log out I ask why. It is every Sunday I have trouble either locked out or having to sign in each time I want to post.
Love tulips although some are getting old now and I need to renew those and some Daf's

Frank

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