Shrinking Violet

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Independence Day?

Posted: 29/06/2016 at 21:56

I keep looking at this thread, thinking we should all move on, but am magnetically drawn to it, nevertheless!

Aaaah - all those poor young things who think the oldies and wrinklies have stolen their future!  Yet less than a third of them managed to get out of bed and vote!  And what seems to have escaped them is the fact that we voted on their behalf - using our experience of the past few decades. 

MPs in tears?  (Anna Soubry - sorry, love, no sympathy.  The status quo is just not good enough).

The markets are picking up.  It will still be a rocky road, but we are strong enough (and some would say bloody minded enough) to weather the storms.

One thing is bothering me:  we have voted "out".  But until we trigger article 50, we are still in.  So who the devil does this Juncker chap think he is telling us we have no right to be there, debating the issues etc?  And why did Dodgy Dave roll over and allow himself to be excluded?  Repeat:  we have, as a nation, shown our intention.  It is not operational until (and unless) we trigger Article 50 and two years' worth of negotiation on terms is completed.

So we are still in.  And surely we should demand a place at the table and a voice?  Or am I missing something?

Independence Day?

Posted: 24/06/2016 at 21:39

Crikey Lou - is it still as vile as it was this morning?  I dread to look!

My son mistakenly saw a valedictory post with a Union Flag, commented on it and went to work.  What he hadn't realised was that it was from the organisation "Briton First".  Once he realised, he couldn't get back on FB to distance himself from them.

Unfortunately, the situation that we are now in encourages the outrageous and the disaffected.

Who was it said "Stop the World, I want to get off"?  I'm with them  LOL

Independence Day?

Posted: 24/06/2016 at 21:27

Obelixx - funnily enough, I did take the trouble to research many of the areas of contention with regard to the EU.  I took nothing for granted.  I assumed that there were areas that warranted further research, I reread many of the documents that I had saved from my Salad Days  when I was actively promoting the merits of the (then) European Economic Community.  I contacted my MEPs.  I read extensively.  I appear to have been in a minority.

Whatever (as the young are wont to say)

I felt I had done all that I could to make an informed choice.  I voted.  I looked to the future.  I shan't be here - my bed of daisies awaits.  But for my son, for future generations, I made a decision honestly and from the heart.

I resent being treated as a half-wit, a pariah, a bigot.  I did not (and never have) take my voting decision lightly.  For the record, I have never, ever missed an election:  I have a hard-won right to vote - an obligation to vote.  And I always do.

Independence Day?

Posted: 24/06/2016 at 18:56

Sorry Obelixx - I was feeling rather cross at some of the stuff that is being said.  I was on Facebook and I just can't believe the venom being expressed towards anyone who voted contrary to some sort of received wisdom.

Ok - calmer now.  Deep breath:  It's going to be very, very tough to find someone with the vision to sort this whole debacle out.  There's a vote of No confidence in Jeremy Corben.  Cameron is going.  Sturgeon is seizing the opportunity for another Scottish referendum.  Sinn Feinn are stirring the pot of discord. 

There needs to be some firm, rational leadership.  How's about someone normally out of the public eye knuckling down and doing the job ie not one of the "front runners"?  Now there's a thought . . . .

(For the record, I'm available )

Independence Day?

Posted: 24/06/2016 at 18:32

Here in Devon I have seen Vote Leave posters a-plenty, and only one, small Remain poster.  Having travelled extensively for the past week or so (Canadian visitors who we conducted hither and thither) I have had a lot of experience of the general feelings in the area.

I have spoken with many.  I have listened in (deliberately!) to many a conversation in the market, the coffee shop and the pub.  I have not ever heard one person complain about "bloody immigrants".  Not one.  Not ever.  But I have heard  a lot about accountability and democracy.

The guarded "socio-economic" profiling is just plain insulting.  People of all backgrounds have had their own opinions.  Just because some of the most dramatic results were in the Labour heartlands doesn't damn all of them (and any other Leave voters) to working class ignorance and xenophobia. 

I'll take my degree certificate and hide it in case anyone thinks I'm thinking above my station, shall I? 

Independence Day?

Posted: 24/06/2016 at 18:01

And if we think about workers' rights etc - when  I left school, there were two pay scales (quite common) with the large insurance company that I worked for:  men's rates and women's rates.  A lad two years younger than I joined on the same day, with fewer qualifications;  he was paid more because he was male.  Barbara Castle led the way for equal pay - long before the Common Market even thought about it. 

The rights afforded to workers won't disappear because we aren't being prompted by the EU. Our sense of fairness and justice won't be compromised because we have voted somewhat inconveniently not for the European project. 

It was predicted by all that, in the event of a Vote Leave, the markets would be in turmoil.  In the sort term it may be painful.  In the long term it may even itself out - as predicted by a number of economic commentators.  But the short-term panic by currency speculators and the like is not basis for panic or instant judgements about the future.


New to having a greenhouse

Posted: 24/06/2016 at 17:52

I wouldn't take Monty Don's experiences as a satisfactory guide to all things horticultural tbh.  But if you research a bit you may find something that will satisfy your desire for fruit etc without too much hassle.  Yours is a pretty average sized GH and it doesn't sound too promising on the nectarine front, I suspect.  Good luck, and keep us patched in with how things go!

New to having a greenhouse

Posted: 24/06/2016 at 17:24

How big is your greenhouse?  Even a dwarf peach/nectarine is going to grow to about 4 - 5 ft and, unless they have vastly improved the cultivars, I believe that the yield for such compact trees is very low, and may not be worth the effort (you would have to hand-pollinate the flowers, for example).  Perhaps your ambition is a little too much at such an early stage with your greenhouse.  You could research other fruit (melons?) and find it less difficult and more productive.

There may be others who more direct experience, but I have always been led to believe that these fruit trees do best on a south-facing wall (which retains warmth) and I'm not sure that a GH would be the best environment.

Just had a second thought - what about a vine?  Lovely grapes, take some looking after, but worth it!

Independence Day?

Posted: 24/06/2016 at 17:05

ecokid:  in 1975 when many of us were barely old enough to vote, the older generation voted for us to stay in the EEC whether we wanted to or not.  We had to live with their decision.  That;s life.  That's democracy.  And the young don't have an instant access to wisdom just because they are young;  the older generation who have "been there, seen it, done it" use experience to guide them.  You may not like the outcome, but you can't rail against those who brought about a decision that wasn't in accordance with your own.   Those who voted "out" aren't a bunch of bigoted old fogeys who don't care about the future because they won't be here to reap the consequences:  they voted because they cared about the future for their children, grandchildren etc.

After the madness of the day

Posted: 24/06/2016 at 16:58

Trust a true gardener to bring some much-needed perspective to events!  We shall continue to plan ahead (daff/tulip bulbs anyone?) and see our future in calmer, gardening  ways.

I love those pics - but I don't recognise number 4.  Do tell me what it is - want one, want one, want one!

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