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A plumb job

Posted by: Adam Pasco, 06 August 2007, 09.58AM

Plums August's plum time in my garden, with 'Victoria' a firm family favourite. Everyone loves them, especially my daughter Danielle, who strips my single fan-trained plum before even the wasps get a taste!

This has led me to extend my plum picking season by planting an earlier ripening 'Opal' and later ripening 'Marjorie's Seedling', so I'd hoped to be enjoying plums from mid-July until September. My 'Opal' was planted about five years ago, but fruit has been non-existent until this year. Having waited patiently I was rewarded with a bumper crop that started ripening about three weeks ago.

But, oh, what a disappointment! The plums looked lovely, as my picture shows, but they taste of nothing. Lovely size, beautiful soft flesh...but no sweetness or fruity flavour at all. Is it just me or are plums everywhere particularly tasteless this year?

Perhaps the relentless rain and lack of sun have taken their toll, swelling fruits but making them very 'watery'. Good looks aren't everything. It's flavour I want - organic home-grown plums to eat straight from the tree with enough left over to freeze and cook during winter. My 'Victoria' plums are swelling nicely, so I just hope they have the flavour to match their appearance.

Crops have certainly been affected by the heavy rain, so it will be interesting to see what other gardeners have found, and what lessons we can learn for the future. I see from Jane's allotment blog that her spuds are suffering. Well, at least the watercress is loving it!

Comments

  • Dawn Hambleton

    09 August 2007, 01.18PM

    I've had a large crop of plums but very disappointed that they have all split, if anyone can tell me why I would really appreciate it.

  • Adam Pasco

    10 August 2007, 05.08PM

    I'd put splitting down to heavy rain following a dry period. I'm not sure what part of the country you live in, Dawn, but fruit splitting can be a problem with many fruits, including tomatoes. The fruit's skin grows quite slowly, and if heavy rain causes the plant to take up moisture quickly the fruit swells causing skin to split. I hope this hasn't happened to all your fruits, and you manage to enjoy a few.

  • Sharon Beale

    11 August 2007, 12.44PM

    I would agree with the you. I was disappointed with my damsons. Very good crop but little flavour.

  • Sam Gee, Hertfordshire

    13 August 2007, 07.53PM

    So sorry you have been disappionted. Our plums have been very tasty and we have had a bumper crop. One thing puzzles me though.... we have an apple tree next to the plum (with a heavy crop), there is a branch which has 2 plums growing on it. - No, I haven't had too much 'plum juice'!. Both trees are more than 15 years old and I have never seen this before. I would be most grateful for an explanation, I can take some pictures if needed.

  • Mick Murias

    18 August 2007, 06.30PM

    Best year so far (out of 3 after inhereting my tree during a house move). Last year the (Victoria) plums were plentifull but small and tasteless, this year there was a better June drop resulting in fewer but tastier fruit. Suprising after the tree had its feet in 3" of water for a week during the recent floods!

  • Adam Pasco

    20 August 2007, 11.47AM

    Sam, please do send us a picture to gwletters@bbc.co.uk as we'd all like to see this. If it is true, I'm at a loss to explain this. Plums belong to the genus Prunus while apples belong to Malus, and while both are members of the family Rosaceae I'm pretty sure you can't get plums growing on an apple tree or visa-versa. I'll get back to you one I've seen your picture.

  • Simon Bright

    30 August 2007, 01.45PM

    Hi, I live in Derby and over the past two years have created a wild garden for insects and animals alike. My family are the lucky ones as we can sit out under a scoth pine, listen to the trickling water from our ponds, watch the numerous dragon flies, hear the bees buzzing around us and laugh at the squirels as they prance up and down the garden. All this on an estate just 3 miles from the city center!

  • Dr Graham Sharp and Professor Janet Ruth Sharp

    01 September 2007, 07.59PM

    We resisted interfering with a busy wasp nest throughout the summer and have now been rewarded by an insight into the most intricate and amazing construction of the nest. the wasp was the Norwegian wasp common in Aberdeenshire and we first notice the football shaped nest in a shrub in July.

    We placed a notice to warn visitors to Beware. Occasionaly our German Shaperd accidentally caused a bit of excitment in the nest but took warning and no-one ever got stung. We noticed that all activity at the nest had completely ceased a few days ago, so in the company of our three grandchildren, we investigated by pruning the bush to free the large orb. Inside we found deserted quiet and wonder........ My message is leave wasps alone.

  • Dr Andy Downie

    09 September 2007, 07.59PM

    Hi all, We moved to our new place in the Clyde Valley in 2004 and inherited an ancient orchard as a consequence. Over the last few years the trees have been less productive and in general dying. Is there any way I can rescue these wonderful old trees?

    A few orchard owners have come together under the guidance of Scottish Natural Heritage to for the Clyde Valley Orchards Group, so any advice you offer will be passed on to my neighbours.

    Many thanks Andy www.orange-house.co.uk

  • Adam Pasco

    10 September 2007, 03.50PM

    Fascinating to read about Graham and Janet's Norweigan wasps. I always keep clear of wasps having experienced a nasty reaction when stung a few years ago. Now I carry an Epipen (adrenaline) around just in case! Andy, do try and get your fruit trees identified. If they are old and rare varieties then it would be a great shame if they died, and you should try and get them propagated into new trees. Perhaps a fruit nursery or the RHS Fruit Officer could offer further advice.

  • John Dyke

    10 September 2007, 05.08PM

    Our plumb tree has fruited heavily but like last year the plumbs have often had a single grub in the flesh. I would like a recommendation on a suitable spray and how and when to prune.

  • Rob Pyatt

    11 September 2007, 09.24PM

    I live in Swindon, Wiltshire. I've been picking wild plums that grow in many of the hedgerows in and around the area. I'm not sure of the variety, the fruits are about the size of a large cherry and are either apricot orange or dark purple. They do make good eaters though I usually use them for jam. This year though I have noticed that despite looking just as good as normal there are fewer fruits, they two taste bland and potatoey.

  • Adam Pasco

    14 September 2007, 09.32PM

    John, your plums are being eaten by plum moth larvae. I don't spray my fruit (or anything else I eat for that matter) but do hang pheromone moth traps in my tree to attract and catch the male plum moth. Do try this next year. I also use pheromone traps to catch codling moth to prevent attack of my apples.

  • Susan Roberts

    23 September 2007, 06.51PM

    I have a Victoria Plum tree about five years old, the crop of fruit was so heavy it has broken several branches. If i saw them off at the break what do seal the wound with also there are three main branches one of which crosses over a path way in the garden will it be alright to saw this off also. Some advice please. philip@pentrebroughton.co.uk

  • Steve

    28 September 2007, 12.09AM

    How far apart would you suggest planting purple sprouting? Thanks in advance.

  • Stewart Weston

    04 October 2007, 10.23AM

    I have a large Victoria plum tree which fruits every year - but they vanish before I can pick them, overnight up to 20 plum's disappear without trace. Who's eating my plum's ?. any help would much appreciated. Thanks

  • Dr Andy Downie

    04 October 2007, 11.56PM

    Hi Adam and all, I should have mentioned that the trees we have are mostly Victoria Plum with a few Damson, and these both seem to be the fruit that are suffering quite badly. We started off with around 86 VP trees but we have lost or are losing quite a few, and we had 3 damson trees but these bore very few fruit this year and look as though we won't have them next year, unfortunately. It has been mentioned to me that the trees are just "done", but it would be a shame to lose them. Many thanks, Andy

  • Carolyn

    08 October 2007, 11.09PM

    We have grown an orange tree from a pip and it is now about 10ft tall and looking rather sorry for itself. We live in the Birmingham area and wonder whether we could leave the tree out during the winter or is it better to bring it indoors in the conservatory. Also any ideas as to why it has gone very limp with yellowing leaves this year. It has always been very healthy in previous years. Thanks for any advice in anticipation.

  • Alisonhereford

    04 January 2008, 12.00AM

    Just got round to reading some of the comments. I'm really surprised that people had such disappointing plum crops. We inherited a Victoria (i think!) when we moved here and it has cropped spectacularly and the fruit has been delicious. We had in excess of 100lb of fruit from one tree!

  • Susiesue

    04 June 2008, 06.28PM

    I planted a plum tree and it showed no signs of growth, though on inspection it didn't look dead, so I left it. I went to my allotment this week and there is growth, but it is coming from the base of the trunk. There are lush green leaves at the bottom, but nothing from the rest of the tree. Has anyone got any ideas. I really don't want to lose the tree!

  • Norris

    10 June 2008, 09.49PM

    I have a Victoria plum tree in my garden and it has been doing well for the last few years. However, this year it gots lots of leaves but hardly got any flowers on it? Does anyone know why? Please suggest.

  • Rhys Morgan

    14 June 2008, 04.03PM

    My Victoria Plum is two/three years old. It started off OK this year with nice growth and good fruit development. However, one branch has become sad, is wilting. The leaves are also wilting, and the fruit have stopped developing. The other branches, leaves, and fruit seem fine. Any ideas please?

  • vicky sew

    21 June 2008, 09.04AM

    We had a huge crop of plums on our tree which is 5 years old this year. This morning I looked out and most of them are all on the ground!! Why?

  • shellaza

    22 June 2008, 08.46PM

    We have a plum tree and as far as we can find out it may have been there 20 years or more, we have been here for two years and have just created a garden from a jungle!! the plum tree was lovely last year but this year it seems to have a problem the leaves are turning brown and crunchy on most of the branches but not all the leaves and it has started oozing (the best way i can describe it) orange sap, it sets hard on the branches the plums do not seem to be forming very well at all, can anyone help us novice gardeners??

  • Chris - reply to Rhys

    03 July 2008, 03.54PM

    Hi Rhys, My plum tree has done exactly the same i have tried spraying it feeding it but it is just sad and wilting and only has skinny branches. Anyone have any ideas. thanks.

  • Tom

    07 July 2008, 12.12PM

    I have a young Victoria plum and this is the first year that I have seen it with leaf on, the leaves have mostly come out with a effect that the leaves look as though they have been burnt and just crumble away I have tried spraying and have now cut the branches back, the leaves were full of holes and turning brown, can you advise me as to what it could be.

  • 17 July 2008, 10.51AM

    I planted a victoria plumb tree about 3 years ago, this is the first crop of fruit it has had, but the plumbs have stopped growing and are hard and green, and not very big, is this normal for its first crop?

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