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Victoria Sponge

Hi All,

Can anyone help to identify these plants?

I received the first two as part of my '5 pot luck perennials' offer from lavender world...

1,

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/43136.jpg?width=307&height=350&mode=max

 2,

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/43137.jpg?width=307&height=350&mode=max

Hosta? Soloman's Seal?

3,

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/43138.jpg?width=307&height=350&mode=max

It's the primula leaved one in the centre - I'm guessing it's a weed as it's grown up very quick.

4,

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/43141.jpg?width=512&height=350&mode=max

 The smell and shape of the leaves are similar to my flowering currant but this appeared and leafed up well before the ribes did.  This is a self seed btw, I just potted it up to watch it.

cheers 

Vic

 

Heather Michaels

Can't help with 1 - 3 Victoria but I would have gone with Ribes for number 4 as well! Not so many plants that smell like cat wee!

Victoria Sponge

Cat wee! It didn't remind me of that, but I'll have a test sniff... 

The leaves are twice the size of my ribes, I'll keep an eye on it 

Cheers for the reply though, Heather  Much appreciated!

Welshonion

It only smells of cat wee when you bring the branches of flowers into the house, otherwise it smells OK.

Dovefromabove

No. 1 could be Caltha palustris - marsh marigold

No. 2 I'd go for hosta

No. 3 looks a bit like foxglove ..... but it looks a bit like several other things too ..... 

No. 4 is one of the ribes

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a quick guessing game 1 might be honesty and 4 could be astrantia but leaves look a bit big 

Fishy65

I can't help with the first three either but number 4 looks suspiciously like my flowering red currant.

Victoria Sponge

Cool! Thanks so much for your replies 

Dove, there are similarities with the marsh marigold, in particular how the new leaves come up

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/43249.jpg?width=307&height=350&mode=max

 I don't remember what mine looked like when it was younger. 

Kimrose, I looked up Honesty as I have never seen one in the flesh and the leaves are similar but it seemed to be a biannual? This was sold as a perennial unless there are different forms, I don't know.

2, I'm happy with hosta.

3, Dove, it does look like a foxglove, I don't know why I didn't think of that. Probably because mine don't look as nice or healthy. It's quite fuzzy like a foxglove. I've levered it up as it was quite close to an allium and it's roots were pretty deep for something that only appeared this year.

4, I think I've solved the riddle of the cat wee! Welsh onion, you are right it smells stronger in doors, but I can smell it outside as well. I can't smell my own ribes. The smell I got in the first place wasn't by sniffing the plant- I rubbed a leaf and compared it that way- it's a funky smell but I wouldn't say cat wee. I didn't notice the plant stank on its own but that does smell like cat wee...  So it's definitely a ribes, it's just thriving a lot better than the one I bought last back end, but that's sods law...

kimrose, I compared it with an astrantia too, but mine are still hugging the ground round here and this is about 6" tall.

Thanks all for your replies- that was quite exciting! Might look around for some more mysteries 

nutcutlet

I think 1 might be one of the Doronicums

not sure of 3 as a foxglove but haven't a better suggestion, except I have an Adenophora that looks a bit like that and seeds into everything. It dies alone in the garden but lives on in a pot of agapanthus and various other lodgings

How about Ligularia dentata for the first one? Fairly sure it's not Caltha palustris.

Victoria Sponge

Hi Nutcutlet  You answered my first post last year before I got stuck in the spam filter...

Hi landgirl 

Right I've been looking up images of doronicum and ligularia and it seems they are both aster family which might explain the similarities in leaf.  I want to go with doronicum because the leaves are smaller than the ligularia although I don't know how old the plant is and how it might change.

According to my weed book, leopards bane leaves change shape further up the stem so maybe I'll have to wait and see.

I've decided 3 isn't a foxglove. That was a bad pic.

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/43296.jpg?width=307&height=350&mode=max

 It's got no discernible centre and I don't believe the way this is spreading is characteristic of a foxglove, but I'm happy to be corrected

Ref the ribes, mine is pulborough scarlet so maybe the self seeded one I've found is a normal one. 

Cheers for your help everyone,

Vic

 

I think no3 is possibly an echinecea( cant spell it).

Victoria Sponge

Lisa 

I couldn't be happier if it was an echinacea!! I'm trying to grow them but they just get chewed.

Is there a non-herbaceous echinacea?

Vic

Victoria Sponge

Just resurrecting this thread to see if anyone recognises no. 3 now:

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/49413.jpg?width=512&height=350&mode=max

 

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/49414.jpg?width=512&height=350&mode=max

 It's leaves feel like sandpaper in texture. The plant is 14" high and its stem leaves are 3".

Cheers in advance

Vic

 

Victoria Sponge

Is anyone familiar with Ploughman's-spikenard (inula conyzae)? That is the closest I can find in my weed book.

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Dovefromabove

Any colour in that flowerhead yet Victoria?

nutcutlet

I think it's a campanula.

The one that stands about 18inches tall and has cluster of purple flowers

Victoria Sponge

Campanula glomerata?

How embarrassing - I bought that and thought I'd lost it.

Back into the border it goes!

Thank you

nutcutlet

That's the name, I couldn't remember it

Victoria Sponge

I think I'll mark that one with a stick for next year