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Gard, toms will tolerate a lot higher than 25C, even in a greenhouse, but the sort of temp you're citing would be a problem. Outdoors it would be less of a problem - mine sit in a baking 40+C all day - but a greenhouse, even ventilated, can become effectively an oven. How likely is that your high-40sC will continue? You might need to look at erecting some shade cloth to keep the temp down.
Your watering routine is right. Requirements will vary with temperatures, etc. Water as and when required, not by rote.
Well, I've just checked, and not another mite in sight. Oh well. I'll see how or if it progresses. I've stripped all the tomato plants of fungal leaves, so nothing much more I can do for now. Sun is beating down already.
Thanks for taking a look at the pics Italophile.
Becks -you may not be seeing a red spider mite-they are miniscule and not always visible to the naked eye-usually in greenhouses-you may have been seeing red spiders- a harmless tiny spider that you usually get in the summer
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Well, I've just checked, and not another mite in sight. Oh well. I'll see how or if it progresses. I've stripped all the tomato plants of fungal leaves, so nothing much more I can do for now. Sun is beating down already. Thanks for taking a look at the pics Italophile.
All you can do is keep watch on the pepper leaves. If it's fungal or bacterial, the spots will change and develop.
Gard, I used to live in Melbourne before I moved to Sydney before we came here to Italy. I know all about changeable weather. Melbourne has the infamous four different seasons in a day. The only real problem for toms in high temps is that they're reluctant to set fruit. Other than that they will cope providing you keep an eye on the moisture situation, which you're doing.
Yes, you need to harden off seedlings gradually. I've cooked a few in my time.
The problem with keeping things humid in a greenhouse in order to avoid one problem is that you invite other problems - like fungal disease.
Geoff, what do you reckon about Beck's pepper spots?
I always bow to you superiors knowledge on this subject-but I would have thought leaf scorch from water droplets-the peppers look healthy enough to me
If you grow something outside not so susceptible to disease?
I think it is unlikely that you will actually see a red spider mite
I'm not sure it was a spider mite Geoff. It was tiny and orange colour, no wings, but only the one, and nothing underneath, but I flicked it off.
Sometimes Jess waters the plants, and although I stress to her not to get water on the leaves, she does sometimes get them. They also only appeared after they went outdoors. They were inside up until 2 weeks ago. All of the plants were. So don't know.
My look on this is always don't panic-plants are a lot stronger than we think-they are like children they want to perform for you and most of the time grow out of it-the real nuisances are blights once they get a hold then there is not a lot you can do
If you saw it and flicked it it wasn't a mite.
Do what the PM does-chillax
Oh, I can do that!
I have just noticed that some of the dahlia leaves have the same pigmentation as your peppers-convinces me even more it a water-drop or weather related problem rather than a disease
Cool. Just my toms that are sick then!
That's why I was wondering about insects. The spots don't look disease-related. Maybe scorch from droplets of water when the leaves weren't fully adjusted to the outdoors.
Cool. Just my toms that are sick then!
That's why I'd keep as much space between the lot of them as possible.
I have. Took your advice and they are all spaced out now, well away from each other.
Italophile - Just how good is your knowledge of tomato plants? And can I test it? LOL When I sowed my seeds, I did 2 varieties, Alicante and Cerise Cherry tomatoes. When I repotted all the seedlings up, I did the ultimate beginner mistake, and never labelled them. From the pictures I put up on page 3 of this thread, can you tell which variety I have left? I have tried googling both varieties to compare, but just can't tell! I also am not sure what a truss is. (I have a bad feeling I pinched them off with side shoots this morning). have you a picture of a baby truss by any chance?
Sorry to be a pain.
Just as a reminder, I just took some pics.
Yeah, I thought you were going to say that! I Googled them so much, but just couldn't tell. Oh well. That'll teach me to not bother labelling. Thanks for the reply.
Becks, I'm back from a couple of days down in Umbria, I could only access this forum on the stupid little iPod.
I don't know either variety but hunting around the internet seems to indicate they both have large-ish, regular leaves. So leaf size isn't going to help. You'll know the difference as soon as the flowers start to develop, though.
Alicante looks like its clusters are in clumps of up to half a dozen flowers, but pretty much bunched together. Cerise Cherry, on the other hand, looks like its flowers develop in long strings of ten or twelve or more. Quite a traditional cherry tomato flower pattern. So very different cluster patterns that you will tell apart immediately.
I was down in Umbria helping a friend deal with her tomatoes. I helped her set up the garden and I sow seeds for her, giving her the seedlings. I took some photos of flower clusters for you. Now these won't resemble yours in terms of the pattern in which they develop because hers are mainly beefsteak and medium-sized oblate varieties, but at least they will give you an idea:
EDIT. Having had another look at Alicante and Cerise Cherry on the internet, I would bet a very small amount of money that the CC's leaves are a bit larger than Alicante's.