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Hi all

as promised, having been so helpful in identifying the hedging plants in our new garden, I'm now going to ask for your help with the herbaceous/border stuff. This is mostly in the "front" garden. I say "front" because the house is in one corner of a square plot so front and back are all one garden space, but this is the bit accessed from the front door, extending as far as the bridge over the pond. Thecatsfather and I also have built a gate and the start of a fence, so Daisy Doglet can be in the back garden and postie (for example) can still safely get to the front door


 But I digress

Behind me in the pic you can see the "front" garden. There's a beautiful acer, an interesting tamarisk (which you guys identified), an overgrown ilex (which may go), hostas, a couple of elders, a rose (which I found being strangled by brambles, cut everything away and found just one 6ft long rose stem striving to reach light and air, and which threw out a lovely bloom 10 days later

). Lots of hypericum, irises in the pond, a geranium, and several other herbaceousy/shrubby things which I don't know what they are. So, here you go!

1) floppy, about 2ft tall (may have been hacked back by thecatsfather so may not be showing usual flowers etc)


2) near pond, so presumably moisture-loving


3) quite big. In a prominent position so presumably a desireable plant (one pic taken mid June, second taken last week where it's started to wilt a bit)



4) about 3ft tall (2 pics)



Thanks peeps






2 astilbe just starting to flower.

3 tree peony. If it flowered in May /june it may have seed pods on now?

1 is some sort of achillea, I think.

2 is an astilbe

3 is a tree peony, I think.

4 dunno.


Might 1. be one of those multi-divided leaf ferns?

and 4 a spirea of some sort.

Agree fidgetbones and waterbutts on the other 2

4 - possibly some kind of spiraea.


NutC you just beat me!


must be right if we both think so Peter.


4 looks like that horrible suckering everywhere spirea and I think the tree paeonia is lutea. The flowers are not as showy as the others but the leaves are much prettier. 1 looks like fern to me too. Nice to see you btw thecatsmother


Ooh you see this is where I am dim

. I'm used to small plants (previous garden was 15ft x 45ft so I picked small stuff and kept everything small). I actually have an astilbe in a container, but cos it's so much smaller than  this one I didn't notice the similarities, d'oh!

achillea looks to be a distinct possibility. I'll look forward to seeing tree peony in bloom  next spring (yes there are big seed pod things on it). And spirea japonica (apt in a Japanese themed garden) Little Princess looks a likely candidate.

Oops! Forgot one last pic to identify please - these are about 4ft tall



Looks like japanese anemone or on of the anemones.

Cant see number one as an achillea though, growth style all wrong


And ps you might quite possibly all be right re plant 1 (i.e. either fern or achillea) - from Googling it looks possibly like fernleaf achillea (filipendulina)


nutcutlet we crossposted - I've found this info online re fernleaf achillea: "When put in more fertile soil they tend to flop over and will tend to spread faster and become more agressive.". Also it may have been battered about a bit by thecatsfather when he was removing a vine which was growing next to it (I think it temporarily had some planks of wood plonked on top of it too, until I saw them and hastily removed them ) so the growth style demonstrated in the picture might not be representative .


Agree the last one is a Japanese anemone - it's just about to flower, so you will soon find out if it is a white or pink one


Ah you see this is another example of how this garden is  darn well planned - looks like there'll be interest all year. Paeony in May, hypericum for the last month or so, and a nice geranium too, anemone and astilbe in the later summer, acer in the autumn. And other delights to discover over the next 12 months too .

Addict I get the vague impression that you're not too keen on the "that horrible suckering everywhere spirea" . I'm more than happy to keep unruly plants in order so will keep an eye on it and try to make sure it's well behaved! For example the hypericum was staging a takeover bid on the whole area, and was covering an area about 8ft by 4, goiong into the spirea at one end and the anemones at the other end. So I pulled lots of it up, and also cleared a space in the secion middle of it and put a nice new hebe in there (decided there was just too much yellow so wanted to break it up). I will be very protective of the hebe until it's firmly staked its claim to some space


I don't like spireas either. Especially the one with yellow leaves and pink flowers. It's not the suckering, that can be handy in a large garden like mine. I just think they are some of the most boring plants - in leaf and flower. sorry (a bit sorry anyway) 



I feel the same about the 20ft ilex which I want to get rid of - boooooring

Sara 4

In the long list of things I have murdered is an eight foot square of spirea with a ton of honeysuckle on top, so 99% of it consisted of brown sticks with no leaves and certainly no interest ... seemed easy to dig out though - is it going to come back to haunt?


Never keep anything you don't like thecatsmother. sooner it's gone the sooner something else is growing



yeah just a bit worried about taking out something which must be taking a lot of water from the soil -  our garden's below sloping fields and there's a system of drainage pipes and a sump with pump below the garden (installed by the guy who designed the garden). If we do take it out (tree surgeon job i think) I might have to invest in something quite big to put in as replacement, so it'll take up quite a lot of water quite quickly.