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I want to know if a climbing rose we've just bought can be put into a trough shaped planter.
I want to plant a climbing rose in a trough planter. I have to use a planter because it will be on a patio. The rose will be climbing up a trellis on a fence so we cannot move it once it starts growing. It is important that we get the planter right from the beginning.
I want to use a trough planter rather than a tall one because of space constraints. I am thinking of a trough planter which is 60cms long, 28 cms wide, 26cms high.I think this is ok because the volume of soil is the same - it just fits into a better shape. I know that some plant roots need to go down, usually to access water. However, is it ok for climbing rose roots to grow outwards rather than downwards and if so, is a length of 60cms long enough?
What is the name of the rose?
I don't think your planter is a great idea. Roses can be grown in large pots but they need depth.
Yeah, something like a small summer clematis would tolerate it if you kept the root run cool and shaded (eg. a thick stone trough with stone mulch on top), but roses do need depth to grow at all well. Climbing plants in general prefer a deep root run as they've evolved to go down a ways to stop the wind catching their topgrowth and yanking their roots about. Sorry chuck...
Roses don't cling and have to be pruned and tied up, so you could move it after you plant it. A shallow trough is not a good idea, though - the advice you've been given above is good.
Re the name, waterbutts, it's called 'High Hopes' - appropriately named for a climber!
Does that make any difference??
And would a VERY TALL planter be a solution? As we will have to give the plant away, otherwise; as there is simply NO groundsoil to use.
We have got a tall (c. 60cm HEIGHT) zinc planter going unused, so would that work at all?? (It's square-topped i.e. 30cm WIDTH x 30cm LENGTH, tapering only very slightly at the base.)
If you'd have to give it away otherwise - I'd put it in the tall planter - you've nothing to lose so it's worth giving it a go. Add some weight to the bottom of the pot to aid stability - stones or a brick. Give it a good mulch after watering as well to help retain moisture. If it's not thriving you can always try a bigger pot or give it away as you were prepared to do that anyway.
I'd give the tall planter a go. I have several not too tall climbing roses in pots, but they are 50cms deep and 50cms in diameter. I have 2 in a trough, but it also is 50cms deep and 100cms long, 45cms wide. When I fill the pots I mix manure, compost and earth in the bottom half and top up with compost. They will need regular feeding with rose fertiliser and lots of watering.
Here is "The Pilgrim", a David Austin Rose, about 4 years old.
And Malvern Hills and Phyllis Bide, about 6 years old.
Thanks everyone, for all your advice.
I will try to keep the forum advised as to the rose's development.
[ Quick update @ August 2014 : ]
Just an update: Happy news! We saw some very promising red-tips in the spring (April), and fortunately these turned out really well: here are some pics of our potted(!) rose as seen this summer.
I attach 1 photo here; there are 2 more - in Slide Show format - at: http://s1235.photobucket.com/user/In-The-Frame/slideshow/Pink%20rose%20climber%20High%20Hopes: these include a pic of the pot we ended up utilising.
(BTW these pics were taken back in July; this is the first opportunity I've had this year to upload the photos! )
We are quite 'chuffed' that the blooms turned out so well! especially as we haven't - yet?! LOL!! - got around to re-potting the rose into a permanent container. And it has been a hot!! summer, too.
BTW thanks for all your advice; & yes it has been a bit difficult to keep it watered in its pot but we have done our best.
So we are happy with a good start for 2014 . . Hoping to get some more success next year!
Ah, I see it now, was just reading this on the RHS forum and couldnt see the picture.
I definitely wouldnt put it in something only 26cm tall, they like their roots to go down.
I couldn't get those photos, link didn't work, nor did copy and paste.
Its a privae photo bucket Lizzie.
Oops - my 'bad', as the Americans say(!) - as I mistakenly hadn't made the settings to that Photobucket folder 'public' - but I have now remedied this so the album should now be 'public' & therefore viewable!:
Yay! we got there in the end, I have put a comment on the other forum, a certain poster there is very keen on spraying everything with pestacides and advised you to do that.
Please dont, try to control by other methods. Washing up liquid diluted will kill them, and that wont harm ladybirds , bees, etc. As will a diluted garlic spray.
Yes, we are hoping to get a larger/deeper container than this green plastic trug. As the trug is only 30cm (height) x 40cm (diameter). It was only utilised as a temporary solution to re-pot the rose last year, i.e. as an 'emergency' option, as it was all we had to hand and - being larger & stronger than the shop's plastic pot - was at least an immediate improvement!
By next year! we might have finally found the time to get that permanent container! Fingers crossed!
Thanks, Lyn, for your postings at both forums.
Yes, we shall try for a less 'chemical' approach for treating it. I like the idea of using the diluted washing up liquid!
Thank you for the photos. I agree with Lyn, but I would use liquid soap. I don't use any pesticides know and the natural balance is restored. Some years, of course, there are more aphids than one would like but others years there are none. I leave it to the natural predators like ladybirds.
I think the rose, lovely flower, will need a new pot next year, some of the leaves look a bit pale. In pots they need more feeding and watering than usual.
Thanks for your advice - and the lovely photos, above, of your own roses.
Re your "pots, but they are 50cms deep and 50cms in diameter. I have 2 in a trough, but it also is 50cms deep and 100cms long, 45cms wide." These sound great. I am hoping we can find something similar in an online shop so that such large &/or heavy containers get delivered to us!