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08/09/2013 at 07:19

Lupins

I have sown some lupins about five weeks ago and all is well or should i say all was well until about a week ago when I noticed they were turning light green and now some are dying off.

 

I have no mound on them. So I was just wondering if it’s too cold for the young seedlings at night they are or I thought they were sheltered from the wind and are not sat in hot sun in the day.

I have some peppers (seedlings) in the same location, these where just a test to see if my own collected seeds from a orange pepper would germinate and guess what everyone germinated these seedlings are in really good health so what is killing my Lupins ??

 

James

  

08/09/2013 at 07:59

What compost are they in?   Is it free-draining or a bit boggy. How big are they?  Have they been pricked out/potted on yet? 

Are they too wet and are damping off?  If the conditions are cooler they probably need to be a bit dryer.

08/09/2013 at 08:11

They were all put in their own pots small one with seeding compost I added some sand to the John innings, most of the seedlings are about 11/2" tall and have two adult leaves on. I think I will move them to the unheated conservatory what do you think Dove

I can take a photo and post it if you wish

James

08/09/2013 at 08:17

Do their little stems look a bit pinched near to the compost?

08/09/2013 at 08:18

A photo or two might be helpful.

08/09/2013 at 08:34

Ok Dove here are the photos

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/30685.jpg?width=250&height=350&mode=max

 

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/30686.jpg?width=250&height=350&mode=max

 

08/09/2013 at 08:36

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/30687.jpg?width=250&height=350&mode=max

 

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/30688.jpg?width=250&height=350&mode=max

 

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/30689.jpg?width=250&height=350&mode=max

 As you can see in the last photo all other plants in this location are doing well

James

Ok Dove here are the photos

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/30685.jpg?width=250&height=350&mode=max

 

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/30686.jpg?width=250&height=350&mode=max

 

08/09/2013 at 08:37

Clueless, forgive me if I seem slow today.  Did you sow one lupin seed per pot?   (I would have sown a number of seeds in small pots or small trays and then, about the stage they are currently af, potted individually into small pots). They may have simply run out of nutrients.....you did say seed compost and sand.

Its a tricky time of year, deciding to feed or not now because usually feeding is reduced or stopped son, but I would put these seedlings in greenhouse and give a diluted tomato or seaweed spray.  

However, do pots feel light or heavy?  Wet or dry?  

 

08/09/2013 at 08:38

Not got a clue why the above post is like it is but hope full you can get the idea

James

08/09/2013 at 08:42

I will go and have a look to see if the pots are light/heavy

Thank you Dove and Verdun what would I do without you guys

James

08/09/2013 at 08:48

just been out and they are dampish as I watered them on Friday with a roseless small watering can 

Yes one seed per pot 

James 

08/09/2013 at 08:51

Looking at those photos the lupins do look a bit "lost" in those pots.  Perhaps they were over watered too?  

Not sure what others will say but, yes, I would bring them into the greenhouse.  If they seem heavy and wet just leave them alone.  They look quite wet though.

I tend to sow in pots, then prick out in half size trays to about 8 to 12 in each.  Then pot on into 9cm (small) pots. Young plants do not like to be over potted....they "drown" or become overwhelmed by too much soil

Not too lomg ago Cheshunt compound was used for damping off etc of seedlings and this was very effecfive.  No longer available or I would have suggested usIng this too

08/09/2013 at 08:54

So move and leave for a week or two 

sound advice as always 

Thankyou

08/09/2013 at 08:57

Yes, don't water them 

08/09/2013 at 09:21

Agree with all above - also take those pots out of those plastic trays and stand them in seedtrays (with holes in the bottom) with a layer of gravel in the trays - they won't drain properly as you have them there. 

08/09/2013 at 09:22

Ok I now know what I'm doing today Cleaning conservatory and putting sheeting down so I don't spoil wooden floor 

Which one tomato or seaweed spray.  As I don't have any so I'm going to buy some 

I have bought comfrey b14 and plan to make some nettle feed up next year as well how long will these feeds keep for  ??

I suppose I've just answered my own post seaweed feed

James

 

08/09/2013 at 09:24

Ok Dove will do can I stand the seed trays in a grow bag tray and move trays when I water/feed ?

James

08/09/2013 at 09:58

Yes, but you're not going to water for ages and ages are you?  They've got enough moisture in those pots to last for a long time - they've only got very little roots and the roots need oxygen as well as water, if the compost is sodden the roots will drown. 

08/09/2013 at 10:01

OK Dove not going to water for ages

I blame my new watering cans Two a small Hawes and a big powder coated Hawes look a like LOL

 

James

08/09/2013 at 10:05

Are those posh all-singing all-dancing watering cans that water your plants by themselves when your back is turned?  If so, then we've identified the culprits - slap their wrists!!! 

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