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23/05/2013 at 17:13

I have an obelisk (approx 6ft high) as was considering training a Clematis (Carnaby)against it but I was wondering what else would be suitable to plant with it in order to have something in flower when the Clematis has finished.

23/05/2013 at 17:48

A small climbing or rambling rose, honeysuckle, canary creeper (annual and yellow but still...), lobata, sweet peas, runner beans - not a joke, they are very pretty in flower, were introduced as a flowering plant - then you get good grub afterwards. 

23/05/2013 at 19:15

why not look at avalance which is a white clematis and evergreen.

seen some in bq and they look great,but at £30.00 a bit expensive.

24/05/2013 at 10:44

I have recently planted a honeysuckle called 'Dropmore Scarlet' on a post which is part of my pergola. I did my homework on this plant, and as far as I know, it will flower until autumn (the red exotic-looking flowers are plentiful now).  It's evergreen, too.  But I think it's a vigorous climber and could be too much for your obelisk.  I agree with Bookertoo on all she came up with!

24/05/2013 at 10:50

You could stick to clematis, because different ones flower at different times. Morning Glory flowers to the frosts. Here's a good site about clematis.

24/05/2013 at 18:27

Definitely not a rambling rose.  You'd need a tree for that. Rose plus late-flowering clematis would be a pretty combo.  Late flowering clematis also has the advantage of being cut down Jan/Feb so no problem  of taking over.

24/05/2013 at 19:43

A Clematis Flamulia is lovely and the perfume is very delicate, also I like Morning Glory with different vibrant coloured flowers coming out every day.

25/05/2013 at 07:12

Thankyou for your replies. I was considering another Clematis but wasn't sure which ones flowered later but thanks to your replies I will look into Morning Glory and peruse the recommended website.

25/05/2013 at 12:38

Just a PS - I'm just wondering how you would prune two clematis on the same support; it might be difficult to see which was which, as the leaves would be similar.   


25/05/2013 at 19:24

You could look at the David Austen New English Roses. Some of those make very good short climbers (up to about 6 - 8 ft) (I like Gertrude Jekyll). They are known for their attractive form, repeat flowering and many have very good scent.

I agree with Mahwah that trying to prune 2 clematis on the same support could be difficult unless they flower / need pruning at the same time (which kind of defeats the object...)

01/06/2013 at 11:58

Thankyou Mahwah and Topbird for drawing to my attention to the matter of pruning the two Clematis, I agree with you this could be a problem!  I have looked at the D.A rose Topbird suggested but I would preferably like a red one, if anyone can suggest one that might not grow too tall for my obelisk. Thanks 

03/06/2013 at 09:05

There are several red D.A. New English roses

(see this link ).

The 2 recommended for training as small climbers are Falstaff (6') and Tess of the d'Urbervilles (7').

I have seen Falstaff growing & it is very pretty & has a good scent. 

03/06/2013 at 16:33

I have a Falstaff in a pot, not out enough for a photo, but here is a Google one.


05/06/2013 at 15:58

Thankyou Topbird for the D.A. link, although they are both beautiful,  I am slightly swayed by Falstaff simply because it has the stronger ffragrance. Cheers 

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