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Lindylou333

I have 3 climbing roses - all Madame Alfred Carrierre.  For some reason they are all very bad at producing flowers.  I have various other roses in the garden, all of which flower profusely so I really dont know where I am going wrong.  Has anyone got any suggestions please?  Thanks. 

Salino

..how long have you had them?  they can take some time to settle down before they flower well... first couple of years can be all growth in my experience...

Lindylou333

Thanks Salino. I have only had them 2 years so I feel much better now.  Thank you

Lyn

Have you pulled the growing stems right down and tied them in?.

This will stimulate lots of new growth along the stems.

Hostafan1

Mme A C can be a real brute once it gets going . I've seen them throw up shoots about 15feet long in a single season once they've settled in. They're probably establishing a good root system now.

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Lindylou333

Hi Lyn not sure what you mean. Can you elaborate pls?

Lyn means training them laterally on wire's. You take the strong growth it's very flexible, and tie them to wires strung on wall or fence. This produces new shoots from the laterals which give you more flowers. I have one and it's a beast if left untamed. I pruned mine in April, and I have one shoot from the base at 15 feet already, time to get the wire out again.

Lindylou333

Have done this on one as it is growing against a wall.  However the other 2 are growing over an arch.  Have loads of green growth but only a few buds on all of them. Am hoping they just not old enough - as Salino has said .

Hortum-cretae

A thought - what was your pruning regime?  A mere tidy up in summer and tying in good new stuff is all they require. Prune too hard and all they'll do is react by concentrating on growing back. Flowering comes a poor second. As youngsters they'll definitely concentrate on growing 

Lindylou333

Well, I have been pruning them like I do all my other roses, quite hard to be exact.  When should I be pruning them?  And how?  Sorry to be a pain

Hortum-cretae

Not a pain, it's what this is for!  With climbers and ramblers, as said above, it's more a case of a continual successional tying in of strong new growth in summer as it is long and strong enough and the removal of older flowered growth and weaker stems. All to preserve the best and strongest growth. Those new shoots are tied in, often on the horizontal to encourage flower bud to form for the following season (or even later the same season with repeat flowerers). Too hard a prune and all the plant will do is race to make growth which doesn't mature to flower before you prune it again! Hope that helps. HC

Fairygirl

Isn't this a great forum Lindylou? 

Where else you can get first hand knowledge and experience at the click of a mouse 

Lindylou333

Thanks Hortum.  Will certainly not prune so hard in future.  Hopefully will have flowers galore next year.  Yes Fairygirl it really is great and very helpful.

Lindylou333

Hi dovefromabove. That video was really helpful. Thank you

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Lindylou333

Hi runnybeak she is also my third.  She was 12 yesterday so she is an old lady now

Jess is in the Garden

Watching this with interest, as my Madame is also 2 and only madly producing greenery at the moment, at an impressive rate, but no flowers.

I have trained mine horizontally and it looks nice and full, but I'd just like to ask whether I ought to be pruning it at all in autumn/Spring, or leaving it until it flowers!

Last autumn I only tidied it up very conservatively, as I was under the assumption it's best to leave climbing roses 3 odd years before radically pruning.

Was I wrong?