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25/08/2013 at 21:58

Good evening, my mother in law has this tree outside her conservatory and we were unsure what it is? I thought maybe Euonymus Europaeus but the colour and shape doesnt look right? not so sure? any ideas guys? as in the title it has these red seed cases and when i squashed one earlier there was an orange berry like seed inside. sorry i posted in the wrong thread and now not sure how to move it!

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/29901.jpg?width=368&height=350&mode=max

 

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/29902.jpg?width=368&height=350&mode=max

 

25/08/2013 at 22:03

It's certainly euonymus.  There's a smallish one with very red leaves in autumn, the name will come to me if no-one comes up with it,

25/08/2013 at 22:04

Euonymous europaeus Red Cascade?

25/08/2013 at 22:08

might be it. Is that small? Someone I used to garden for had a brilliant red one, it was only a metre or so tall and had been there for years

25/08/2013 at 22:08

thanks both, i was thinking along the euonymous line but the seed case seems a bit more pink in the europaeus varieties, even red cascade? also the seed cases look like they are more developed into seperate quadrants in the pics of europaeus. maybe its just too early in the season? 

25/08/2013 at 22:13

E. alatus is another one that's widely grown

25/08/2013 at 22:14
nutcutlet wrote (see)

might be it. Is that small? Someone I used to garden for had a brilliant red one, it was only a metre or so tall and had been there for years

Usually gets bigger than that Nut, but it's not huge.

The seedcases open to reveal the orange centre later in the autumn.

25/08/2013 at 22:31

I've got an unidentified euonymus as well. It's got a more open, tree-like shape than this one. Maybe I'll take its pic tomorrow, it would be good to know what it is

25/08/2013 at 22:41
nutcutlet wrote (see)

E. alatus is another one that's widely grown

That's a smaller one than Red Cascade - it colours up well. 

25/08/2013 at 23:36

i think that might be alatus. Been looking at some pics and it's got a curved look to the leaves like this one has 

26/08/2013 at 09:00

There is also E planipes which I have just acquired as a seedling so no fruit yet, E. phellomanus which is very nice and E hamiltonianus in various forms. Got both of those but no pictures.

26/08/2013 at 09:26

Don't think it's phellomanus or planipes but my hamiltonianus is about 3 inches tall (from seed last year) so can't comment on that one

26/08/2013 at 10:40

Trouble is that all the Euonymus have very simlar 'berries', even E japonica, when that manages to fruit.

26/08/2013 at 11:36

They do Berghill. My thought that this is alatus is based on that slightly 'squashed' appearance of the whole shrub. 

26/08/2013 at 23:24

Thank you everyone, at least im in the right area! are the seeds poisonous and are they viable?

26/08/2013 at 23:56

they're viable but I've never tried eating one

27/08/2013 at 10:46

The fruit is poisonous, containing amongst other substances, the alkaloids theobromine and caffeine, as well as an extremely bitter terpene. Poisonings are more common in young children, who are enticed by the brightly-coloured fruits. Ingestion can result in liver and kidney damage and even death. and the seeds ripen from September to November. The seeds are eaten by frugivorous birds, which digest the fleshy seed coat and disperse the seeds in their droppings. All parts of the plants are poisonous to humans if eaten.

27/08/2013 at 14:17
nutcutlet wrote (see)

they're viable but I've never tried eating one

Don't eat one Nut!!! 

27/08/2013 at 14:47

Righto Dove, I won't

27/08/2013 at 15:55

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