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07/06/2014 at 09:05

It smells lovely, but has lots of vicious thorns. I have three, was five, but the deer ate the others.

07/06/2014 at 09:45

On the subject of thorniness, I bought 8 bare-rooted roses from Peter Beale's Roses recently and found it really useful that they give all theirs a thorniness rating.  

07/06/2014 at 11:28

..lovely old Albertine.... too thorny for me nowadays..but a major rose in its day....a favourite of the late Queen Mother's...  nice to see it again David...if only for a few weeks....

KEF
07/06/2014 at 11:59

I'm enjoying this thread, lovely roses everyone

Albertine has been around since 1921 I remember it well

KEF
07/06/2014 at 12:04

This is the only rose I have, but I think I will need to remedy that at some point in the future.

Reminiscence, given to me by a dementia charity.

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07/06/2014 at 12:52

Now this is going to date me. I’ve just found my old rose notebook which dates back to when I used to specialise in them…….it even has scribble in it from when the kids were ickle.

Varieties I grew: Eden Rose, Ena  Harkness, First Love, Golden Eddie, Grandmere Jenny, Mc Greedys Yellow, Marcel Gret, Peace, Poinsettia, President Hoover, Forty Niner, White Swan, Madame Butterfly, Paulette, Dorothy Peach, Prima Ballerina, Gail Borden, Carmen Talon, Ophelia, Perfecta, Better Times, Betty Uprichard, Chrysler Imperial, Crimson Glory (cross between Peace & Ena Harkness) and The Doctor.

07/06/2014 at 14:18

...not grown any of those that I can recall...but I'm sure they must have given you a lot of pleasure at the time.... here are a couple of my photos from the past...

'Malvern Hills'...an Austin rambler.... ignore any claims this only grows to 12 foot...in the ground it was rampant after 3 years...30 foot width and not stopping.... eventually it got a bit too much for me...which is a shame as it's quite spectacular when in full bloom...

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 ..this next one, which I've posted on this forum before I think,  is a photo of a photo dating back to 1992 from my riverside garden in Cornwall... on shallow mucky white clay [like white china clay] overlying granite... almost impossible conditions...lol..

...old fashioned roses like these add such grace to a garden, something that's very important to me and difficult to find these days I think.... you can get large blooms...disease free roses, but not always grace...

...'Mme. Lauriol de Barny' ..'Alexandre Girault' ....

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07/06/2014 at 14:21

KEF...that's very pretty...I do like roses that are reddish in bud but then flower yellow...and yours has a nice reddish edging too..

...never knew you were that old...?..lol

07/06/2014 at 15:18

Beautiful, KEF...the first one seems to have a nursery in the background.

Could have sworn I heard the twittering of birds when I looked at the second one!

KEF
08/06/2014 at 07:34

Thanks Salino. As David says your last two photos are beautiful.

 

KEF
08/06/2014 at 07:45

David some really old names on your list. I have a book with "scribbled names" of what Dad grew, can't read them all it's faded a bit.

Bonsoir, Vienna charm, Fred Gibson, Ethal ? Sanday, Gavott, Gail Borden, Bonsoir, Rex Anderson, Izobel Ortiz, Evelyn Fison, are some listed

08/06/2014 at 09:23

Yes, KEF......some old names there, even before my time. My own interest was probably in the mid-sixties.

Been around this gardening malarkey for longer than I realise sometimes.

08/06/2014 at 11:23

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Everyone has such lovely roses.  Rose heaven!

Looks like I'm going to have the usual unsuccessful start to the year with what's left of mine.  Thought I had blasted off most of the greenfly the last few weeks but the few buds coming up are all pretty much like this so far (see pic).

08/06/2014 at 17:13

Hmm a few of my buds look very rain damaged too

08/06/2014 at 17:35

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My new William Shakespeare, in a pot on the terrace, came out just in time for my garden party.

 

08/06/2014 at 19:46

..such rich colours...very nice indeed...good scent to go with it..I hope..?

...I think there is a William Shakespeare 2000... in what way it differs, or is supposed to be an improvement on the original...I don't know... perhaps that's the one you've got...

08/06/2014 at 21:06

Smells lovely, a David Austin rose. I think it is 2000, same thing.

09/06/2014 at 00:16

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lawrence johnston- a single bloomer good here in reno-would probably be splendid in cooler weather. almost 30 yrs old and scandalously neglected for most of that time. was going to shovel prune it but massacred it instead-took out about 90%-the main canes were 6 in through-2 yrs later better than ever-a shattering rejuvenation that worked out 

09/06/2014 at 08:51

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That is very helpful, David. I have 2 Mme Alfred Carrière, planted around 1992 which have very old, thick, woody stems with most of the flowering on top. Any low shoots they made were eaten by deer, so I never dared remove the oldest stems. Now the main flower garden is deer fenced, since 3 years ago, and they are starting to make strong lower growth. Can I, next Feb/March cut off the old stems (more like trunks!) without upsetting the roses?

Photo is early March, before pruning, I did cut off most of one trunk. The other rose has fewer new stems.

 

 

09/06/2014 at 17:42

35C here today so lake tahoe beach today-when i was going to pull the rose i cut the main stems by half but then had 2nd thoughts. in late winter took them off completely. you might cut yours back and rub off any new growth on the old canes and then finish the job in march. the year after i did it the bloom on the remaining canes was incredible. looking at the lists of roses people have grown in the past made me think of ellen willmot, extremely rich edwardian lady who supposedly grew every rose then in cultivation. could it be done now or are there just too many?

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