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17/04/2013 at 14:40

Hello everyone,

I recently bought a house with a 30x90ft garden, which was massively overgrown:

http://imageshack.us/a/img580/1193/gardenold.jpg

 

I have since spent quite a bit of time pulling out all of the old bushes and trees, burning as I go. As you can see, I've certainly made progress:

http://imageshack.us/a/img27/5903/garden2b.jpg

 

http://imageshack.us/a/img6/6974/garden3u.jpg

 

 

However, I am now moving towards being in a position whereby:


[*]There are lots of roots in the ground from the large bushes / small trees
[*]I have attempted to remove the bramble roots, but not done a great job - lots left in there / hidden
[*]I want to remove all of this, and then lay grass!

My plan is to hire a mini excavator (it's about 800cm wide - will fit through the door in my garange!) and pull up the remaining large roots (e.g. against the fence on the left, and over on the right).

I plan to use the excavator/digger to pull up the small amount of grass that exists, and also level the ground a bit more.

I then plan to get a heavy duty (13 horse power) rotorator, and use it across the whole area. I hope that this will pull up any roots / weeds / stones which are under the surface, so that they can be easily picked up and removed.

The rotorator should also leave the ground in a good condition to lay grass seed... I hope.

I wanted to check with you guys regarding this - have I missed anything or am I going about anything the wrong way? I am aware a rotivator is going to blitz certain roots (e.g. the brambles), but I am unsure how else to get rid of something dotted hidden across a garden of this size. Obviously the mini digger will identify some bits...

Please do advise / help - I was hoping to get the digger this weekend and do most of the digger work, with the rotivator the following weekend. I can only spend weekends on this due to work, and we have some extra help (probably 3-4 of us each day).

Does this all sound achievable?

 

17/04/2013 at 14:42

The images are quite small / low resolution in the above post, please find a high resolution version at the following link (click the image once it loads):

http://www.hostfile.nl/fpimages/wk0fpf1stw/15597/garden%202%20-%20high%20res.JPG

 

http://www.hostfile.nl/fpimages/wk0fpf1stw/15597/garden%202%20-%20high%20res.JPG

 



I am hoping this will allow you experts to better see the state of the ground - the remaining weeds / roots / plants I am hoping to remove with the mini digger...

17/04/2013 at 14:54

Rotivation - good way of propogating brambles and other perennial weeds by chopping the roots up and spreading them around.  Mini-digger better idea, as you can grub out most roots.  Works best if you have a helper grabbing the roots as you dig them up.

Rotivation a big no-no - I was hoping to do similar, the experts on here have persuaded me to dig by hand, and not make a big problem into a huge problem.  BTW, the garden isn't that overgrown, I've been dragging out 12ft bramble shoots out of mine over the weekend!

17/04/2013 at 15:08

Nothing wrong with the photos in your first post - clik on them and they open in a new window, enlarged.

OMG...

...your first image of the garden was fantastic. Just needed a prune and a bit of a tidying, I'd have possibly replaced some of the shrubs with other plants and twicked the design of the garden overtime - to put my stamp on it.

17/04/2013 at 15:28

 I want to have a seating area, a bbq, possibly a hot tub one day, an area for my future children to play football, an area for swings one day, etc,etc,etc. I am however leaving trees etc in place, just removing some bushes / weeds etc. It was a big garden with little usable space - hense the "cull".

 

Mummy Muddy Paws - thanks for the heads up on the rotiviation. I certainly won't do it until I'm confident the mini digger has gotten most of the roots!

17/04/2013 at 15:49

What a wonderful opportunity, its just the sort of job l love,  wish l was closer (lm in Spain)l would offer a hand,keep us up to date with your pics, best of luck.

17/04/2013 at 15:58



How do you think I can tackle these VERY sturdy roots without completely wrecking the fence :P ?

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2696/fenseroots.jpg

 

17/04/2013 at 16:23

haha....with great difficulty, looking at that fence. 

You have lots of plans for your garden, good luck with it all. 

17/04/2013 at 17:32

Ask your neighbour nicely if you can remove the fence just for the weekend.  Take it down carefully, but be prepared for it to disintegrate - investigate where you can get something similar, as cheaply as possible, just in case.  Then after you've removed the fence, carefully dig out the roots, making sure if you do any damage to neighbour's garden, you make good STRAIGHT AWAY.  You really don't want to be fallling out with neighbours that quickly (normally takes a couple of years to fall out with some neighbours, others I love & would be upset if they moved).  Find out whose responsibility the fence is, if it's yours, it's something to think about - do you want to keep it, or would you prefer something else.  Check your deeds & by-laws, some areas have laws that prevent you building a fence or boundary above so many feet (didn't stop my nasty neighbour planting bloody leylandii that are level with the eaves now).  You don't want to make an expensive mistake.

Good fences make for good neighbours.

17/04/2013 at 18:01

From experience, if you have kids in the future, forget about a decent lawn and growing flowers! You will never accomplish either. Oh, yes, and don't put up expensive fences.

17/04/2013 at 19:02

I think there is some stuff you can get to inject in roots like this and it kills the whole thing.  Save digging but may take a fewmonths / a year to work.  Sorry I dont know what it's called but I'm sure a good garden centre would know.  Also need to be careful it doesnt effect your soil.  Good luck!  you clearly wont need to go to the gym!!

04/07/2013 at 04:40

I think I'd call a professional tree removal service to get those trunks out.  Also I've rototilled my garden and had I known, wouldn't have bothered in many areas.  The roots wind around the tiller and then requires hours to try to get the mess untangled from the blades.  Also this previous owner had underground sprinklers and extension cords I didn't know about!  The hoses were rotting anyhow, but it was a disaster. 

That fence looks like it should be replaced.  Trees should never be planted right on a property line or right beside a structure!

 

Anyhow, one thought I have is that you get the roots out as best as you can and then consider adding several inches of topsoil before laying grass; raise the entire lawn so the roots are burried.

04/07/2013 at 05:51

Those roots aren't that big.  I have the old stump of a gigantic leylandii still in one border, it's completely dead, I just leave it there.  Other roots the size of the ones in your picture I have treated with root stump killer and am just waiting for them to die off.  Next spring I will dig a huge hole around them and just dig/cut them out.  I've done it before, all but the very largest tree roots can be dug out with a bit of patience.  I agree with the previous posts, DO NOT ROTIVATE.  Bramble roots are awkward but you can get them out with again, lots of digging and patience.  I had to laugh when I saw your pictures, I wish my garden had been this tidy.  I can't afford a digger, etc, we're doing it all by hand, and so we're in it for the long haul, don't expect to have a decent garden again until next year, but if like us you spend a bit of time and effort now on digging out the roots you will be rewarded in the future, if you rotivate you will have weeds everywhere for years.  Good luck, keep posting updates, we all love to see everyone's gardens.

04/07/2013 at 08:46

Hi MicheaL D

If you saw off the stumps as low as possible then you can put on

tree  stump killer but do( cover stump with polethene bag ) so that no wild life are effected by the poison!

normally i would not sugest poison but in this case' YOU NEED HELP!

          good luck.

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